Does anyone think a good jab would work floyd?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eaner0919
    no because it would only be a matter of time before he starts timing it and the cadence at which it's thrown. All BS aside Floyd is a very smart fighter one of a handful who can adjust gameplans and techniques mid fight.

    In order to beat Floyd you have to force him to get out of his comfort zone. People think it's letting him lead but we saw what happens in Gatti and Marquez when he does lead. I always thought the gameplan to beat Floyd would be to never let him set or breath to constantly bring heat to him in differing patterns. That's why we saw guys like Jesus Chavez and JLC give him issues and yet superior boxers like Genaro and DLH get outboxed with little issue
    Good points. I'd suggest letting him lead rounds 1-4 assuming you don't get Ko'd, which is not likely, begin the pressure in rd 5. Floyd seems to always win late rounds, like 95% of rds 9-12. Save your energy as long as you can and win rds 10-12.

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      #12
      Floyds never fought a really good jabber but again there's not many good jabbers at the lower weight classes. The only good ones I can think of are Cotto, Khan, and Maidana's underrated jab that doesn't get appreciated much so I have to have pictures of it landing on Khan so people can see it.

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        I dont see how a good jab alone can beat Floyd, considering Floyds got a good jab and probably better than your jab? So you jab floyd, and he jabs you as well, but only better.

        By all means jab, but then mix it up as well. The jab will have to set up other punches. Or when he jabs you will think how you can take advantage by detonating punches on his jaw in return for pitty pattying you with his jab.

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          #14
          Originally posted by brick wall
          a good jab works on anybody.
          I agree with this guy.

          You need more than a good jab to beat Floyd though. He can do so many things in the ring so a good jab won't be enough.

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            #15
            Who has a good jab that can catch Floyd ???

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              #16
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              I dont see how a good jab alone can beat Floyd, considering Floyds got a good jab and probably better than your jab? So you jab floyd, and he jabs you as well, but only better.

              By all means jab, but then mix it up as well. The jab will have to set up other punches. Or when he jabs you will think how you can take advantage by detonating punches on his jaw in return for pitty pattying you with his jab.
              Floyds reach is unique for a small guy which makes his jab even more effective.

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              • MindBat
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                #17
                Originally posted by Eaner0919
                no because it would only be a matter of time before he starts timing it and the cadence at which it's thrown. All BS aside Floyd is a very smart fighter one of a handful who can adjust gameplans and techniques mid fight.

                In order to beat Floyd you have to force him to get out of his comfort zone. People think it's letting him lead but we saw what happens in Gatti and Marquez when he does lead. I always thought the gameplan to beat Floyd would be to never let him set or breath to constantly bring heat to him in differing patterns. That's why we saw guys like Jesus Chavez and JLC give him issues and yet superior boxers like Genaro and DLH get outboxed with little issue
                Pretty much.

                Originally posted by hugh grant
                I dont see how a good jab alone can beat Floyd, considering Floyds got a good jab and probably better than your jab? So you jab floyd, and he jabs you as well, but only better.

                By all means jab, but then mix it up as well. The jab will have to set up other punches. Or when he jabs you will think how you can take advantage by detonating punches on his jaw in return for pitty pattying you with his jab.
                Pretty much.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MindBat
                  Who has a good jab that can catch Floyd ???
                  Amir Khan.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Floyds reach is unique for a small guy which makes his jab even more effective.
                    Yes theres no point in trying to win a fight against Floyd by outpointing and jabbing him. You have to hurt him in the chin or body area so he cant perform as well as he wants.
                    Daze him to the chin, and then take the wind out of his sails to the body. That mighht make him forget to jab you.

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by LegendOfLink
                      Floyds never fought a really good jabber but again there's not many good jabbers at the lower weight classes. The only good ones I can think of are Cotto, Khan, and Maidana's underrated jab that doesn't get appreciated much so I have to have pictures of it landing on Khan so people can see it.
                      agreed 100%

                      it's like saying

                      what if Floyd faced ________ he's never really faced a good ______


                      you could put in a few different aspects and create a debate

                      in the end Floyd is extremely talented but not infallible

                      however very few have had much success on Floyd and there is a reason why

                      haters will say it's because he hasn't faced ________ (insert whatever flavor of the month trait to beat floyd)

                      fans will say it's because he is impeccable at what he does (even though they cannot quite describe what he does)

                      the truth is somewhere in the middle of the two

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