Comments Thread For: Nacho: Marquez Has To Survive Early Pacquiao Rounds

[Ray*]

JMM need to be more worried about Paq after those first 4 rounds, am guessing Nacho is purposely trying to play with Team Pacq minds, Whenever JMM gets caught this time around I see Pacq finishing him..

[RockyB]

No its not. All it will show is that jmmdoesnt belong at the weight. Not how much pac has improved since 08

The weight that your hero Floyd fought JMM at?

[wizard king]

If Nacho really thinks that JMM is going to wear Pacman down in the later rounds then he is out of his mind. Manny throws over 1100 punches a fight, this is going to be a legit beat down but at this weight class did anyone really expect anything different. At least JMM will shut his mouth for good after this and stop embarrassing Mexicans by crying like a ***** about the last two fights.

but thats against taylor made oppents,jmm may win/or lose but one thing is for sure he will make pac look an ordinary pattern fighter that he is.

[WESS]

Are you suggesting with the question "B. Pac still CAN'T handle a defensive counter puncher well" that Marquez's style is comparable to Mayweather's so that conclusions can be drawn? If so, that is not a valid point. Mayweather and Marquez are both counterpunchers, but that is essentially where the comparison ends. Their styles, tactics and strategies are completely different. Just because somebody matches up well with Floyd, doesn't mean he'll match up well with Marquez. Just because someone matches up poorly with Marquez doesn't mean he'll struggle with Floyd. That seems to be what you are suggesting and I disagree that any such conclusions can be drawn.

You can bring Floyd into the equation if you like. I'm simply stating the fact that Pac has trouble with defensive counter punchers.

This third and final match between Pac and JMM at WW is about whether or not Pac's technical skills have improved since 2008.

None of Pac's in-house recent recycled losing opposition gave anyone any insight on how well Pac's technical skills have evolved vs this style of fighter (that gives him so many problems). This fight will to a certain degree yet like I said, Pac should have JMM out very very very very early. Anything less is a sign of Pac being old, still not being able to handle that style or all the above.

[jnapoli85]

If you think that this fight will be at all similar to their last 2 you are in for a surprise. Pac has evolved as a fight much more so than JMM. JMM has gotten old, slow and bitter (most likely from the pee) he will not be able to stand up to Pacs intensity also he doesn't make a good transition to the WW devision.

[straightleft]

JMM is tough SOB but sadly even without the skills improvement in Pacs part, he was definitely stronger right now. I doubt if Pac tag him big, he can finish JMM this time around.

[iNDOLiFER]

if pac land the shots like he did to marg, marquez will go down and wont be getting up. if u think pac's power is still the same your in for a treat. both of their previous 2 fights pac knock marquez down but i dont recall marquez bleeding or anything, marquez's face was fine and pac actually was the one that was bleeding lol but now pac punch way much harder. if he lands the shots like he did with marg, marquez will piss blood for weeks, lets just hope he doesnt drink it also.

[BxFanViento]

Agreed 100%%%%

The first four rounds are crucial because let's not forget two things from the first two fights:

Marquez vs Pacquiao:1
Marquez was down three times in the first round no doubt costing him both the fight and the anticlimactic draw imo.


Marquez vs Pacquiao:2
Marquez went down in the third and considering how close the fight was that lone knockdown proved to be the clincher.


So yeah it's critical, can Marquez avoid getting knocked down?

We will see on fight night

I am a fan of both but Pacquiao either way gots this I see a trilogy ending KO.

[IronDanHamza]

People say that Pacquaio has improved so vastly since the Marquez fight in 2008, right?

They say the Oscar fight, which was also in 2008, was his drastic improvment, yes? Does anyone think he has improved all that much since the Oscar fight? I dont.

But for arguments sake let's say he improved even more with the Hatton and Cotto fights. Because I don't think anyone is going to argue he has improved as a fighter since Cotto. So that's what? A year and a half. Right?

So here's what I don't get;

Freddie Roach has been training Manny Pacquiao since the early 00's. 02 was it? I think it was 02.

My question is. If Pacquaio wasn't that good against Marquez in 08 and had such a drastic improvment in a matter of months. Take it further it Cotto which is a mere year and half.

Then what in God's name was Freddie Roach doing for the first 6 years he was training him???????

[IronDanHamza]

if pac land the shots like he did to marg, marquez will go down and wont be getting up. if u think pac's power is still the same your in for a treat. both of their previous 2 fights pac knock marquez down but i dont recall marquez bleeding or anything, marquez's face was fine and pac actually was the one that was bleeding lol but now pac punch way much harder. if he lands the shots like he did with marg, marquez will piss blood for weeks, lets just hope he doesnt drink it also.

Marquez' face was pretty busted up in both fights.

His nose was broken in the first round of the first fight and obviously bleeding profusley and in the second fight he was busted up also.