Ortiz sees 'manufactured' unbeaten record for Floyd and has little respect

[Heeb]

Ditto...Castillo whooped that ass first time around.

Even if you do think Castillo won, that fight's far too close to call an ass whooping.

[Kagami Taiga]

I agree. Floyd is good but not great. He took it upon himself to fight the lesser guys. He should have always taken on the best if he wanted to claim being the greatest. He is just one of the greatest money makers in the sport, that is all.

so he wasnt great when he was fighting and defeating all the guys in the 130lb division, making himself one of the greatest fighters to come out of a division with a strong history? he wasnt great when he moved up to 135, fought the best guy in the division, had a tough fight but re fought him again and then beat him convincingly? he wasnt great when he moved up to 154 for a superfight with dlh, gave dlh every advantage in the book and still bat him convincingly?? and thats only part of his record. but yea, ppl ignore this **** like its very common. smh.

[Chuckguy]

iM LMFAO AT THE posters saying that floyd isnt great because he chose lesser opposition? WTF??/
but yet those are the same posters that say manny is great when manny is doing the same exact thing
oh wait but JMM and manny are the same size and have fought two great fights BUT SOMEHOW THEY ALLWAYS LEAVE OUT THE FACT THAT THOSE FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND 14 LBS LIGHTER AND MORE AT JMM NATURAL WEIGHT
I think Floyd is great and you can put him in there with almost anyone and he will dominate them but just because he is smart and defensive and doesnt have KO power he gets shi tted on.

[BoxingFollower]

Why does everyone compare Mayweather to Hearns and Leonard....No fighters in the Ww division today can beat Hearns and Leonard, and that includes Cotto and Pacquiao.

[Eaner0919]

Lol, this thread isn't about pac it's about ortiz telling what he actually thinks about floyd which i agree but u r right about pac being miles better than floyd in ATG rankings.

cmon man at least be honest and stop hiding behind topics you know full well this is yet another one of you and your ilk's threads to help fuel your agenda and fanboy attitude

bash Mayweather and praise Manny

your act is tired and before you say well if you don't like ignore or don't go in my posts

there wouldn't be a need for replies like this if you didn't start crap BS threads like this in the first place. If we had actual boxing discussion centered around actual boxing talk rather than having to wade through the countless threads you and your eunuch tribe spew every day then NSB would be a better forum

I mean you and your fanboy base actually had a thread as to who was the crappier father Manny's or Floyd's

really?

you guys are pathetic really really pathetic

[Eaner0919]

Hey E why are margs work outs closed to the public but bandon and nonitos arent?
level of careers?

management teams bro

and Elie

[STREET CLEANER]

Tell me how this thread is about pac?

You are one of those that want Floyd to lose. I'm still hoping a Pac/Floyd fight gets done.

Very simple you have a patterned agenda

[Slip Stream]

If Ortiz actualy believes what he's saying he's insane.

[AntonTheMeh]

management teams bro

and Elie

i thought it was cause they're always "renovating" the gym where he trains at.

really though, you mean elie seckbach?

[Eaner0919]

well kind of

after everything they are kind of guarded as to who they let in

Brandon and Robert aren't which is why you see tons of content featuring them and not so much on Tony