Damn I just bet 800 on ortiz,, I need someone

[optkliluzn]

well to make you feel better I have never seen Mayweather look this skinny before this close to a fight, he's usually crazy cut up already so maybe age has caught up with him, it will eventualy

Poor boy...

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

It legal, they advertise on TV all the time. The govt. even took 100 million of some American company to build supercasino.

You can bet on anything here, paddy power were offering odds on the first animal to go extinct because of the BP oil spill.

I the UK you have slot machines in fast food joints, and you only need to be 16 to buy scratch cards

Thats great ! See here in the U.S. Its not legal. There are many online sites but there all located outside of U.S. because they are not legal. Gamblers in U.S. are able to open accounts but are not able to seek legal assistance or recourse to help them receive wagers won because they are not legal. I've always been paid but never in a timely fashion. I've also read where some gamblers haven't ! I understand your comfort level in keeping an account and keeping your money there. I'm half scouser by the way. LOL

[Bullrider]

Strange response? How about strange question? This thread, and the discussion in it, wasn't about what we THINK the line should be. It's about what the line IS.

I'm merely searching for answers, sir. Probably like the TS as well as many fans who are really not gamblers, I find this Ortiz-May interesting not only in the ring but in the betting area. You find 1/12 for May a lie, which I thought was a reasonable odds. I was wondering what should be the truth then?

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

Well, I don't have access to the closing line in Vegas, so I can't really help there, lol.

Understood ! LOL ! I was referring to a previous bet, a past bet. As I stated it would be difficult unless you kept a log. When you get the chance check it out. As far as closing lines comparison. I've noticed there is not much difference but then again difference can be difference of winning and loosing. As you know !!!

[johnm is...]

I'm merely searching for answers, sir. Probably like the TS as well as many fans who are really not gamblers, I find this Ortiz-May interesting not only in the ring but in the betting area. You find 1/12 for May a lie, which I thought was a reasonable odds. I was wondering what should be the truth then?

Oh. I see what you're saying. I wasn't saying that Mayweather at 1/12 was an unfair line, just that it wasn't what the opening line was.

I know a lot of people that thought Mayweather 1/8 was wide. I'm not one of those people.

[D4thincarnation]

I'm merely searching for answers, sir. Probably like the TS as well as many fans who are really not gamblers, I find this Ortiz-May interesting not only in the ring but in the betting area. You find 1/12 for May a lie, which I thought was a reasonable odds. I was wondering what should be the truth then?

Some bookmakers did offer 1/12 for a Mayweather win. Maybe a bit steep 1/8 was about the average offered by most. The best you can get now for Mayweather is 1/6.

The odds not only reflect the chances of winning but also are affected but how much money is placed on the bet.

Mayweather to win on pts seems to be the favoured bet, it still is odds on though at 8/13.

Ortiz is 8/1 for a KO and 20/1 for a decision, which tells us if Ortiz is going to win it will most likely be by KO.

If you are going to bet Floyd then bet now the odds will only get shorter IMO but if you are betting Ortiz then wait till the last moment, the odds will drift out, though they willl probably drift in again a day or two before the fight with fans just having a bet on the underdog

[MindBat]

Come fight night the odds will be much closer favoring Floyd.

[sicko]

betting money against Mayweather...:
like him or not, even experts and writers who HATE HIS GUTS are not that ******

I think his layoff is being COMPLETELY OVERBLOWN, I think it is WISHFUL THINKING on SOME FANS/HATERS part that he will get old and washed up overnight...Wear and Tear is what slows you down, not really JUST LAYOFFS, LAYOFFS if anything revitalizes your body, Mayweather haven't been in ANY WARS nor has he taken the pounding like many other fighters have by the time they are 34, so IMO Mayweather can still be effect and one of the best P4P even when he starts to get close to 40, just because of his style and smarts in the ring and this ERA of boxing is not even all that great, none of these young prospect, although talented, I am not sure if I see any "The Next All Time Great" yet

and no way Mayweather risk his undefeated record going into a match in which he is "NOT SURE" what he has left You will see a SHARP Mayweather, Ortiz will land his shots but I think Mayweather rolls them and take them well and starts to counter everything Ortiz throws at him and even if Mayweather is rusty, I don't even think most fans will be able to tell because he is not ONE-Dimensional, he doesn't depend on "JUST ONE THING" like so many other fighters

Ortiz will need a CLEAN KO EARLY to beat Mayweather and I really don't see that, certain guys because of their style, they are extremely hard to KO...especially Defensive guys like Pernell Whitaker, James Toney, Bernard Hopkins as well as Mayweather, they were/are extremely hard to KO because they really don't give you CLEAN SHOTS

some people put personal feelings involved when it comes to picking a fight, some go by race/pride and a bunch of other BS that doesn't help you win fights at all

[maguirre]

betting money against Mayweather...:
like him or not, even experts and writers who HATE HIS GUTS are not that ******...

Well, at least the ts is putting his real money where his mouth is. Most of us can't even bet our worthless e-points.

;-)

[UglyPug]

You're right. I know nothing about ********. Do your homework before making such an assumption. I've forgotten more about sports betting than you will ever know.

First of all "real gamblers" don't shop around. Gamblers lose. That's why they're gamblers. Sharp sports bettors shop around. You're a gambler.

2nd, Mayweather didn't open at 12-1. Anywhere. That's nothing more than a lie.

3rd. You're listening to Dwyer, then trying to come off as some kind of professional?

You're an absolute fool if you believe that line movement is based entirely on where "big money" is. People like you are what make it so easy for people like me to win. You, sir, are the public.

Your entire argument is based around saying that Mayweather opened at 12-1, and is now 4-1. Show me ONE sportsbook where Mayweather opened at -1200, and now sits at -400.

You don't even understand the odds that you're talking about.

You do seem to have a good grasp on the betting game. I started getting into it about a few years ago, and Im still learning a lot. Ive basically broken even with my bets - Im up like 60 bucks right now on my account.

Check Hooks is a solid dude, though! I wouldn't be surprised if some solo bookie might have opened it up at 12-1, but who knows.

Lol Dwyer does give some good advice SOMETIMES. Of course you have to use your own knowledge, and it wouldn't be a good idea to simply go off what dwyer says 100%. He did help me out with the Froch/Taylor fight, and I won pretty big betting on Froch.

JohnM is a gentleman and a scholar.