Damn I just bet 800 on ortiz,, I need someone

[D4thincarnation]

Probably not relevant, since I said he didn't OPEN at 12-1.

Reading comprehension FTW.

I did say probably and it would not surprise me if it was since the odds have hardly changed at the other bookmakers.

[THE REED]

Probably not relevant, since I said he didn't OPEN at 12-1.

Reading comprehension FTW.

Well, no kidding. He's saying you won't find it at the SAME book.

[D4thincarnation]

Well, no kidding. He's saying you won't find it at the SAME book.

Thats why I emphasised different bookmakers.

[johnm is...]

Thats why I emphasised different bookmakers.

We're kind of saying the same thing here, just in different ways. Yet, for some reason, I feel like you're trying to disagree with me.

The thing is, Check_Hooks or whatever his name is, can't say:

"Ortiz will win.. just look at the line movement. Mayweather opened at 12-1, and is now at 4-1".

....if he's talking about what's going on at 10 different sports books. Different books have different odds. Lines move different ways at different books, based on the bets coming in. His argument makes such little sense, it gives me a headache.

But none of it is relevant, because Mayweather didn't open at 12-1. And he's not 4-1 now.

[D4thincarnation]

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/boxing...z-2743372.html

1/12 at Paddy power too.

http://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-listed-8-1-favorite-over-victor-ortiz--40188

And he was 1/12 back in June when the markets opened.

Guess it was not lie then.

[D4thincarnation]

Some bookmakers have slightly shortened the odds on Floyd but not anything significant, you don't get much movement at this stage, still 3 weeks away, but I would expect the odds to shorten on Floyd as we approach September 17th.

[johnm is...]

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/boxing...z-2743372.html

1/12 at Paddy power too.

http://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-listed-8-1-favorite-over-victor-ortiz--40188

And he was 1/12 back in June when the markets opened.

Guess it was not lie then.

LOL.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance, but, what the fuck is a "paddypower"?

I'm googling sportsbook reviews, and I don't see it mentioned on any of the top sites. SBR, covers, nothing.

You'll have to excuse me if I don't consider them when talking about line shopping.

[johnm is...]

Scratch that... SBR did review them. In 2010. There's several reports of them rolling people for the bonus' that they offered.

[D4thincarnation]

LOL.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance, but, what the fuck is a "paddypower"?

I'm googling sportsbook reviews, and I don't see it mentioned on any of the top sites. SBR, covers, nothing.

You'll have to excuse me if I don't consider them when talking about line shopping.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Power

Paddy Power is Ireland’s largest bookmaker. Offline it conducts business through a chain of licensed betting offices and by operating Ireland's largest telephone betting service. Online it offers sports betting, online poker, online bingo, online casino games and spread betting. The company also markets its services in the UK and is a publicly quoted company, listed on the Irish and UK stock exchanges.

The are a pretty big bookmaker, and you did say anywhere.

[johnm is...]

Paddy Power!