What Boxers Don't Lift Weights?

[SplitSecond]

Weights play a bigger part in Boxing nowadays than people think, loads of people come up with bull**** like "it slows you down", it doesn't if you know how to use them, think about it if your doing press ups, pullups, etc. your still pushing and pulling on a weighted resistance, using weights is no different providing you use them properly, a lot of people are ignorant and just go with what some others think when reality is a lot of the stuff people come out with is bull****.

As shattered glass just said, of course you don't need a ripped chest like Arnie, but at the end of the day if your doing that sort of weight training whilst Boxing then you don't know what your doing, you do weights to gain strength within your weight class, explosiveness, endurance, etc. There are different types of weight training, many different types.

yep, weights do no harm if used properly
but more than not you're using it wrong when you're in boxing

weights become an issue when you begin to lift unnatural amounts and expect yourself to keep your lean physique, your speed and your stamina

reality is there is really no point in using weights in boxing
all you need is the strenght to quickly and conescutively propel your body with perfect form and technique whilst keeping your stamina

you can shadowbox with some light dumbells, or strap a weight to your head to bulk your neck up

but that's about as far as one should go

[gatorDelux]

i do light weights sometimes...

always bodyweight(push ups ppull ups dips inverted pull ups handstand push ups)

medicine ball stuff is bada$$

[Spacey1991]

yep, weights do no harm if used properly
but more than not you're using it wrong when you're in boxing

weights become an issue when you begin to lift unnatural amounts and expect yourself to keep your lean physique, your speed and your stamina

reality is there is really no point in using weights in boxing
all you need is the strenght to quickly and conescutively propel your body with perfect form and technique whilst keeping your stamina

you can shadowbox with some light dumbells, or strap a weight to your head to bulk your neck up

but that's about as far as one should go

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html

Different types of weight training help benefit different things, if done properly, in the right amounts it can benefit you.

Strength training alone wont make or break someone obviously, there's other things such as conditioning, pads, sparring that help you prepare best, but weights can benefit you.

[SplitSecond]

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles...htraining.html

Different types of weight training help benefit different things, if done properly, in the right amounts it can benefit you.

Strength training alone wont make or break someone obviously, there's other things such as conditioning, pads, sparring that help you prepare best, but weights can benefit you.

you can't convince me

there is nothing with weights that you can't gain from pure calisthenics
except with weights you have more of a risk of going wrong

[dan_cov]

Just about every boxer lifts weights & if they don't they should do.

There is a lot of myths involved with weight training & boxing/martial arts such as doing weights will slow you down. This is not true, doing weights if anything can increase your speed. From sprinters - Rugby players - gymnasts - Bruce Lee - Tyson - Roy Jones, all do/did weights.

The best boxers & martial artists & athletes ALL lift weights combined with a decent diet & plyometrics. It has many advantages such as increased stamina, strength, it may even help absurb a shot better - Stronger legs, thicker/stronger neck muscles.

Here is an old article of Holyfields workout, not sure how accurate this is but still, it's an interesting read

http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9709/hatfield.html

[SplitSecond]

Just about every boxer lifts weights & if they don't they should do.

There is a lot of myths involved with weight training & boxing/martial arts such as doing weights will slow you down. This is not true, doing weights if anything can increase your speed. From sprinters - Rugby players - gymnasts - Bruce Lee - Tyson - Roy Jones, all do/did weights.

The best boxers & martial artists & athletes ALL lift weights combined with a decent diet & plyometrics. It has many advantages such as increased stamina, strength, it may even help absurb a shot better - Stronger legs, thicker/stronger neck muscles.

Here is an old article of Holyfields workout, not sure how accurate this is but still, it's an interesting read

http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9709/hatfield.html

the best in boxing lift weights?
roy jones didn't
mike tyson didn't in his prime
floyd mayweather only uses dumbells and the neck weight
manny pacquiao doesn't
muhammad ali didn't
ray robinson didn't
joe frazier insisted one shouldn't touch weights
marvin hagler didn't

who's these "best fighters that ALL" lift weights?

[Money Shot]

If you're tight at the weight then building muscle mass with heavy weights is not a great idea I'd imagine. Even at heavy it would just make you slower.

[Tiozzo]

Ken Norton didn't lift weights surprisingly.

[New England]

Joe calazaghe............i think pacquiao doesnt as well............

he uses resistance training


and i cal almost guarantee, at some level at some point, ariza has him using free weight (probably small dumbbells) at some level



bodybuilding and weight training are different animals


bodybuilding is about adding weight


each week, as you get stronger and bigger (from "building") you try and add weight at the same reps (finishing your sets with probably no more than 5-10 reps)

and your body adjust to deal with it by "building" muscle
really, it's breaking down and then filling in and fortifying old muscle.

and thats counterproductive in boxing


however, longer reps, with very little resistance, is perfect for boxing.

that's what working a heavy bag is, essentially.


just work out for 3 mins with whatever you're doing and then rest and you're likely doing exercises that will help an entry level person box and get into condition

you cant bench or squat for 3 mins straight with heavy weight
so people don't do these exercises in boxing

making any sense?
it's early, so perhaps it's not


i'll go over anything later when i return from work if anybody wants me to clarify
(i was into bodybuilding pretty seriously in college and will try and answer any questions so long as they have nothing to do with tanning or banana hammocks)


most fighters at some point will shadow box with resistance
small weights (a pound or two)
resistance bands (surgical tubing, etc)
or just wearing 16 oz gloves to add a little weight and speed your hands up when they get into 8 or 10 oz




your fav fighters, however, (unless they are jeff lacy) do not "build" their bodies aesthetically (which is what 99% of the people at a regular gym//weight room are there to do)


those muscles fill with blood quickly and become exhausted and stiff
they limit mobility. they are build and conditioned to work for short periods and then take advantage of long periods of rest (when i was bodybuilding i'd usually take 10-20 seconds to finish a set, leaving my muscles pumped and completely fatigued. then i'd rest for a minute, the muscles would recover, and i'd lift again, at lower reps with higher weights. that is the basis of all body building.)
and yes, they will reduce handspeed with tight and short punches

looping ones not so much
but short, straight punches will have resistance, without having any extra meaningful weight behind them (aside from the extra lbs you put on)
and certainly less speed.

like boxing with a winter jacket on

or hockey pads


power punching is about bones and proportion of weaponry to total size






when doing most exercises when i was simply lifting weights i would design my exercises / routines like this


4/5 exercises per day of basic work (the hard stuff that's doing the building")

usually 4 sets each exercise
id warm up first with pushups, wall pushups

then your "working sets"
grossest movements first (most complex, squats, cleans, bench, etc. stuff that uses many muscles at a time. these are usually your most "athletic" or naturally occurring movements. isolating muscles later in the workout and usually increasing reps late.)

15
10
10
8

and that was pretty high rep stuff

lots of people will go
10
8
8
6

ad then dips or pullups till failure with weight
and then without weight till failure.

and then "cardio" which is BB speak for the regular physical work that happens in the real world, basketball, running, etc.
real stuff. anything that gets your hear going and makes you breath hard (which bodybuilding is designed not to do so your muscles are doing the most work.)

thats a bodybuilding workout.

this sort of weight lifting is counterproductive for boxing

just look at the nature of your workout !

you spend most of your time at the gym resting your completely spent muscles before your next set
if you build muscle like that for a fight you're going to need to fight like arthur abraham, and lash out for brief periods, and then allow yourself long periods of time to recover


that's not boxing.

[Rockin']

We had weights down at Galaxy. A bench, the legs, dumbells and such. Nobody touched them the whole time that I was down there from what I saw. That includes James Toney, Bronco McCart, Salmaci, Terry Pitts, Lonnie Beasley, demetrius jenkins and more. Never saw anybody touch those things. I had a weight training class in High school for 3 semesters. I went from 132 lbs to fighting at 147 lbs. I lifted to put some muscle on a lean frame. Ended out maxing bench at like 230 and squatting at 340. I did good through those years with the fighting. But I still recommend lifting lighter weights with higher reps though. We'd lift 3 days of the week and then play basketball or soft ball or something on the other 2 days. Then at night I would go train with the boxing......Rockin'