You know what's sad about Canelo? What hurts boxing

[JDezi4]

Only Americans do this

arguably...

Most other countries do that to Americans then vise-versa (especially Europeans). One bad night, "American boxing is dead, he's a bum, overhyped American". Then u guys refuse to support that fighter, and since America is the mecca of boxing, when people see that fighter doesn't have any fans, they don't show him interest, which ultimately results in boxing losing fandom.... No matter what, boxing is always what suffers

Prime example, Andre Dirrell... 1 bad showing against Froch, then he didn't even have a chance after the cheap shot from Abraham... Immediately, he faked it

[Bushbaby]

Actually what I think really hurt boxing was in a Ghost Guerrerro interview the other day. Thats when older established fighters don't give the young up n coming fighters a chance. When they sit back & beat older washed up big name fighters & somehow continue to hold the top spots under lock & key.

[Shogunofharlem1]

Actually what I think really hurt boxing was in a Ghost Guerrerro interview the other day. Thats when older established fighters don't give the young up n coming fighters a chance. When they sit back & beat older washed up big name fighters & somehow continue to hold the top spots under lock & key.

Its all in a name. Thats why clottey was avoided for so long. People like him are all risk no reward.

[WitherGlove]

If he loses his next fight, or the next fight, or basically any fight where he steps up in class (funny that a WORLD CHAMP can still step UP in class, but that's beside the point), his stock will take a major hit.

At age 21, he has more than enough time before his twilight to increase in skill and ability... He's technically not even in his physical prime, which is usually around age 25 or so... And a loss might actually be good for him, considering it will help show him where he was flawed, and where he can improve upon.

But, as recent history shows, once u lose, ur a loser, and that's it. They no longer wanna pay to see u fight... So says a lot (arguably most) of today's boxing fans... Basically the new "rule" is, ur not allowed to lose until you've proven yourself, and I think that's hurting boxing.



Andre Berto, who's the latest victim of this that I can think of, is still a young guy, clearly has talent, speed, power, and time to get better, yet becuz he was voted guilty of being overrated, and finally took the loss everyone wanted to see him take, he's officially a bum. His speed, his power, those 2 knockdowns he dished out against the opponent that would beat him, and the fact he got up to fight 6 more rounds after being knocked down himself... That all accounts to nothing now that he has a loss...

My point simply is, GROW UP PEOPLE.... THE BEST FIGHTERS EVER HAVE LOSSES, AND JUST ABOUT EVERY UNDEFEATED FIGHTER IN HISTORY IS GROSSLY OVERRATED (don't forget the words "JUST ABOUT").... This kind of **** hurts boxing...

And u know what'll make it worse? Let's say Berto stops Dejan Zaveck in fantastic fashion... Just like how Ortiz, who was a complete bum not to long ago himself, he'll probably get accolades for it that truly doesn't deserve, which will result in him once again becoming overrated, and then when he fails another test, things will just get worse and worse...

Finally someone said what I been thinking for the longest Thanks.

[Bushbaby]

Its all in a name. Thats why clottey was avoided for so long. People like him are all risk no reward.

I think Clottey is a horrible example. I use to think that he was world class. But the guy refused to let his hands go. I think a far better example is Winky Wright.

[Shogunofharlem1]

It looked like Clottey was content with just getting paid with manny but hes still is a pretty good fighter. I wasnt thinking about winky but your right. No one wanted to fight winky after that vargas fight. At least shane did give him a chance.

[Funtime]

Actually what I think really hurt boxing was in a Ghost Guerrerro interview the other day. Thats when older established fighters don't give the young up n coming fighters a chance. When they sit back & beat older washed up big name fighters & somehow continue to hold the top spots under lock & key.

This.

The reason people rate Helenius so highly is because he's been in with older names, seasoned vets , former belt holders.

The problem is these kinda guys costa a whole heap of money, and people dont wanna spend.