The Ring Mag: Vlad Loses To Holmes, Tyson, Liston. Really?

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  • Barry Halls
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    #81
    Originally posted by Sir TomJones
    Calzaghe and tszyu are hall of famers. Well Tszyu already is but Calzaghe will be in the future.
    Yeah Calzaghe will for sure be in the hof. And that is largely due to his dominant run at 168.

    I think he would get in without beating hopkins.

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    • SirTomJones
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      #82
      Originally posted by Harry Balls
      Not if hes biased. Look at all the weird predictions and statements Steward makes.
      Everyone can claim a bias but I think Lewis is fairly even headed and understands the game.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Harry Balls
        Dominating a division, racking up defenses could lead you to the hof. Theres something to be said for longevity.

        It's not like Kostya or Calzaghe have resumes filled with killer names (excluding guys like JCC for relevancy)

        Vitali will probably get in. I wouldn't be too upset if he didn't though despite being a fan. His resume is really weak namewise.

        Wladimir is a sure HOF'er.
        They were Lineal Champs, Vitali's defending a paper title

        & I don't think there is any dispute of Wlad being a sure HOF.


        IMO Wlad should in but not his brother.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Harry Balls
          From the old timers, who do you feel Wladimir matches up worst against stylistically?
          Prime Foreman. I can't see Wlad winning that one.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Sir TomJones
            Everyone can claim a bias but I think Lewis is fairly even headed and understands the game.
            Didn't lewis say something about David Haye being this generations Evander Holyfield? Maybe I'm remembering it incorrectly.

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              #86
              Originally posted by MANIAC310
              They were Lineal Champs, Vitali's defending a paper title

              & I don't think there is any dispute of Wlad being a sure HOF.


              IMO Wlad should in but not his brother.
              well, calzaghe became lineal champ when he beat lacy didn't he? So It's not like he built his large amount of defenses on defending the lineal title.

              I don't know, i think people underestimate the value of longevity and staying unbeaten for long stretches. Paper title or not.

              Originally posted by Freedom.
              Prime Foreman. I can't see Wlad winning that one.
              yeah thats another tough one. If Wlad had the durability of his brother, I'd give him a better chance against Liston.
              But as he is, I don't think he can pull it off.

              Tyson and Holmes seems "easier".

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                #87
                Originally posted by Expertise
                Have you ever seen Liston fight? He is a smaller version of Samuel Peter
                100% correct. I love how these Africameribum lovers build these guys up into unbeatable supermen, what a joke. Peter would destroy Liston, he's the bigger, stronger version of him. Of course, these guys know they will never have to worry about their fantasies being disproven, which makes them all the more outlandish in what they say.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Grinderman
                  100% correct. I love how these Africameribum lovers build these guys up into unbeatable superman, what a joke. Peter would destroy Liston, he's the bigger, stronger version of him.
                  rofl.. give it up you ****ing ******.

                  Is this some reincarnated alt? Like steelhammer2011 or whatever hes called?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Harry Balls
                    Didn't lewis say something about David Haye being this generations Evander Holyfield? Maybe I'm remembering it incorrectly.
                    LOL


                    Originally posted by Harry Balls

                    I don't know, i think people underestimate the value of longevity and staying unbeaten for long stretches. Paper title or not.

                    ".
                    is Chris John a HOF?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by New England
                      yes it does.
                      what is Vitali's signature moment other than the loss to Lewis? Maybe its just me but I don't know how he is a HOF'er.

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