Comments Thread For: Meyer: Klitschko Terms Will Likely Crack Povetkin Bout

[Grinderman]

What Sauerland means here is "we want to impose our Slave contracts on other fighters and don't want a part of anyone who has leverage" and if you read between the lines you can also tell that this Meyer guy is a Grade-A ****smoker.

People like to **** on the American Heavyweights but I don't remember Calvin Brock, Eddie Chambers, Kevin Johnson, Tony Thompson or Chris Arreola crying about slave contracts.

European fighters are soft, and they expect soft opposition to pad their records. They are afraid of anything that resembles risk.

Americans might not be the best fighters at Heavyweight but they have way more heart, balls and fighting spirit than the current crop of coddled European softies.

I agree with the part about American fighters. But I don't totally agree re Euro fighters. The remark has some truth to it, but I can't call a guy like Sergei Liakhovich "soft." The White Wolf is a warrior, as he showed on Saturday. And the K-Bros are European and not "soft." Can't tar all Euros with the same brush.

[edgarg]

Povetkin chickened out because he was scared when Wlad offered him a career high payday and a contract with no further options twice.. Povetkin is an embarrassment now that shameless coward even acts like hes a champion while his next opponent will be 50 year Holyfield

Let's be fair now, he's only 48. It looks as if Saurland ("Sour"land) is the place where all that "slave contract" crap began. Their "one-speed" trick. So before anything has even been mentioned between Klitschko and Povetkin, they have started the drek. Maybe the hope to, like Haye did, get the most outrageously swollen cash amount, like Haye did.

The difference of course, is that Haye had that belt that fulfilled the Klitschkos' dream, whereas Povetkin does NOT. There likely will be some talks within the next month or so, and then we'll see what's what. Neither Klitschko needs Povetkin except as an opponent to help keep their preferred schedule of 3 fights a year.

[Grinderman]

Let's be fair now, he's only 48. It looks as if Saurland ("Sour"land) is the place where all that "slave contract" crap began. Their "one-speed" trick. So before anything has even been mentioned between Klitschko and Povetkin, they have started the drek. Maybe the hope to, like Haye did, get the most outrageously swollen cash amount, like Haye did.

The difference of course, is that Haye had that belt that fulfilled the Klitschkos' dream, whereas Povetkin does NOT. There likely will be some talks within the next month or so, and then we'll see what's what. Neither Klitschko needs Povetkin except as an opponent to help keep their preferred schedule of 3 fights a year.

Povetkin is DONE as soon as he fights either K-Bro so I don't expect that to happen soon. Chagaev hurt him and Povetkin never hurt Chaggy, and if Chaggy had'nt been so rusty we would have already written off Povetkin.

Teddy likes to say Wlad is a bum who can be easily beaten, but he is none too anxious to try his theories out with Povetkin.

OTOH, if Povetkin can rid boxing of Evander, that would be a positive. And Holy won't get hurt too bad against light hitting Povetkin. The only problem is, I give Evander a shot at winning.

[Hitman932]

I agree with the part about American fighters. But I don't totally agree re Euro fighters. The remark has some truth to it, but I can't call a guy like Sergei Liakhovich "soft." The White Wolf is a warrior, as he showed on Saturday. And the K-Bros are European and not "soft." Can't tar all Euros with the same brush.

Lyakovich is a tough customer, who takes tough fights, but he is past it and needs to do so to make real money.

I am talking more of the new generation of guys like Dimitrenko, Ustinov, Pulev, Charr, Pianeta and Wach. Between them they don't have a single respectable win.

Wach gets a pat on the back for beating up a big fat tub of lard and then the same people who kiss his ass for it say that a fight like Chambers-Thompson is a garbage matchup that proves nothing.

There just seems to be one hell of a double standard.

As a fan I always support the fighters who want the big fights and don't come out making public statements about money before anything else.

[Hitman932]

Whining about "slave contracts" makes very little sense in this instance.

Povetkin, as a mandatory, can force a purse bid. If they don't like the way Klitschko's do business then win the damn bid and do things your way. Of course Povetkin's promoter isn't going to put that kind of money behind him as nobody believes in his chances including Povetkin himself.

As the mandatory Povetkin is also guaranteed a specific portion of the purse.

So do the math.

If the Klitschko-Povetkin fight can generate a 6 million dollar purse and Povetkin gets 40% he will make about 2.4 million.

A fight between Povetkin and Holyfield wouldn't even generate a total purse of 2.4 million, so even if Povetkin imposes a slave contract on Holyfield he will make significantly less than he would being the Klitschko's whipping boy.

[Grinderman]

Lyakovich is a tough customer, who takes tough fights, but he is past it and needs to do so to make real money.

I am talking more of the new generation of guys like Dimitrenko, Ustinov, Pulev, Charr, Pianeta and Wach. Between them they don't have a single respectable win.

Wach gets a pat on the back for beating up a big fat tub of lard and then the same people who kiss his ass for it say that a fight like Chambers-Thompson is a garbage matchup that proves nothing.

There just seems to be one hell of a double standard.

As a fan I always support the fighters who want the big fights and don't come out making public statements about money before anything else.

One thing for sure: Liakhovich would have never wimped out against Wlad like David Haye did. He has no fear in him.

I don't think Chambers-Thompson is garbage. I intend to go see it in AC if possible.

I like Wach and we'll see if he gets some better opponents now. I agree that Dimitrenko is a total wuss, and he was losing to Sosnowski before he landed a fortunate punch in the last round, IMO.

[Khmelnytsky]

Lyakovich is a tough customer, who takes tough fights, but he is past it and needs to do so to make real money.

I am talking more of the new generation of guys like Dimitrenko, Ustinov, Pulev, Charr, Pianeta and Wach. Between them they don't have a single respectable win.

Wach gets a pat on the back for beating up a big fat tub of lard and then the same people who kiss his ass for it say that a fight like Chambers-Thompson is a garbage matchup that proves nothing.

There just seems to be one hell of a double standard.

As a fan I always support the fighters who want the big fights and don't come out making public statements about money before anything else.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1850&cat=boxer

Name 5 fighters in any weightclass that fought better level of compitition after 13 fights. Name any American HW that comes close to this after 13 fights.

[AntonTheMeh]

"The Klitschko's are known for their slave contracts.." said Meyer.

uh, what????????????

[Grinderman]

Lyakovich is a tough customer, who takes tough fights, but he is past it and needs to do so to make real money.

I am talking more of the new generation of guys like Dimitrenko, Ustinov, Pulev, Charr, Pianeta and Wach. Between them they don't have a single respectable win.

Wach gets a pat on the back for beating up a big fat tub of lard and then the same people who kiss his ass for it say that a fight like Chambers-Thompson is a garbage matchup that proves nothing.

There just seems to be one hell of a double standard.

As a fan I always support the fighters who want the big fights and don't come out making public statements about money before anything else.

I forgot to add that another Euro, Robert Helenius, has now defeated 3 ex world champs: Brewster, Peter, and Liakhovich. OK, none of those were in their primes, but they are still not easy outs by any means. So not all Euros are taking the soft way out. Some are.

[Grinderman]

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1850&cat=boxer

Name 5 fighters in any weightclass that fought better level of compitition after 13 fights. Name any American HW that comes close to this after 13 fights.

I like this pic of Pulev: