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  • uoykcuf
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    #21
    Originally posted by Freedom.
    If Dawson defeats Hopkins, he's still not HOF worthy yet.

    However, if after that he moves up to cruiserweight and becomes Ring champion, and then moves up to heavyweight and defeats a Klitschko, then he belongs in the HOF.
    Thats not realistic at all. He shouldn't have to beat a Klitschko to get in the hof. If he did that he'd be consider an ATG.

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    • kbpoetree
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      #22
      Originally posted by LegendOfLink
      Just like Cotto, Dawson looks to always fight the best. Those are HOF fighters to me, always looking to fight the best. Why is Sylvester Stallone even in the HOF, he is a joke ass actor.
      He may b joke actor....but..Rocky and all the movies...equal boxing legend stuff...boxers are motivated by this movie..and many are HOF's

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        #23
        Originally posted by LegendOfLink
        Why is Sylvester Stallone even in the HOF, he is a joke ass actor.
        he's not in as a fighter. He is in as a "non-participant" which include writers, photographers, great ambassadors of the sport, etc. And that's what he was, a great ambassador. The Rocky movies probably did more for boxing than almost anyone in recent history. Great recruit. In fact, didn't Chad Dawson himself become a boxer after watching the first two Rocky Movies?

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        • uoykcuf
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          #24
          Originally posted by kbpoetree
          He may b joke actor....but..Rocky and all the movies...equal boxing legend stuff...boxers are motivated by this movie..and many are HOF's
          Cool movie, I'll give you that but I respect fighters much more than I do actors. Stallone even does hgh or some steroid type **** to get big for those roles too.

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            #25
            Originally posted by LegendOfLink
            Just like Cotto, Dawson looks to always fight the best. Those are HOF fighters to me, always looking to fight the best. Why is Sylvester Stallone even in the HOF, he is a joke ass actor.
            Yeah, Cotto is one of my favorite currently active fighter. But hes not worthy of the hof yet. He could be, but that would take some serious effort in the twilight of his career.

            You can't just fight the best. You need to also win some.

            Stallone is not in the HOF as a fighter. He got inducted as part of a "non-participant".

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            • kbpoetree
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              #26
              Originally posted by LegendOfLink
              Cool movie, I'll give you that but I respect fighters much more than I do actors. Stallone even does hgh or some steroid type **** to get big for those roles too.
              well theres def no way one can respect him as a boxer no doubt...its the image of "Rocky" and what Rocky stood for in boxing...again the music the training etc...jus gets a boxers blood pumpen...good movie for the sport

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              • JAB5239
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                #27
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                If Dawson defeats Hopkins, he's still not HOF worthy yet.

                However, if after that he moves up to cruiserweight and becomes Ring champion, and then moves up to heavyweight and defeats a Klitschko, then he belongs in the HOF.
                This is the type of nuthugging logic that makes me laugh! You guys are just trying to blow Adamek up so after Klit beats him you can claim some sort of great victory. But the fact is Adamek lost to Dawson, had no longevity at cruiser fighting only 2 decent fighters and has become relevant at heavyweight because it is such a weak division.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  If Dawson defeats Hopkins, he's still not HOF worthy yet.

                  However, if after that he moves up to cruiserweight and becomes Ring champion, and then moves up to heavyweight and defeats a Klitschko, then he belongs in the HOF.
                  thats quite a task, while for Adamek a W over Vitali, cunningham and banks seems to be enough.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LegendOfLink
                    Just like Cotto, Dawson looks to always fight the best. Those are HOF fighters to me, always looking to fight the best. Why is Sylvester Stallone even in the HOF, he is a joke ass actor.
                    No disrespect but he literally said directly in his post not to use Stallone being in as an example.

                    Stallone is not in the HOF as a fighter. He is in the HOF as a celebrity. It's two entirely different things.

                    And it doesn't matter that someone fights the best. That doesn't make them a HOF'er.

                    Oakland Billy Smith ALWAYS fought the best. as did Juan Laporte. But they obviously aren't HOF'ers.

                    And Chad Dawson certainly isn't. Not even close.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      If Dawson beats Hopkins he not only belongs on the p4p lists, but he is a lock for the hall of fame. Agree or disagree, vote and than state your reasons.
                      No. That would be premature. He needs to a do lot more IMO including a rematch with Pascal for the HOF. Also, Hopkins is almost 47 years old. But the HOF standards are so low now that it would not surprise me if he got in.

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