If Holyfield fights and defeats Povetkin would that make him"legitly"the oldest

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  • Larry the boss
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    If Holyfield fights and defeats Povetkin would that make him"legitly"the oldest

    "world champion"ever??or because of the heavyweight situation would it not be
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    #2
    Not IMO. Some BS title whereas bhop won the true world championship belts

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    • jimmy1569
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      The fact that HE really won the original belt when it wasn't fractured but wasn't awarded the victory makes it legit as he got what he deserved 3 yrs later.. He can then dangle the fractured belt in front of Wlad & get him in the ring as Wlad has no opponents left... It's the masterplan to finally get The Klitschko's in the ring with him.. Holyfield has now found the opening & is going to make it happen against all odds. He will make sure he beats Povetkin & then we're going to see it happen.. early next year!

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        #4
        Originally posted by jimmy1569
        The fact that HE really won the original belt when it wasn't fractured but wasn't awarded the victory makes it legit as he got what he deserved 3 yrs later.. He can then dangle the fractured belt in front of Wlad & get him in the ring as Wlad has no opponents left... It's the masterplan to finally get The Klitschko's in the ring with him.. Holyfield has now found the opening & is going to make it happen against all odds. He will make sure he beats Povetkin & then we're going to see it happen.. early next year!
        I don't know if I'm trying to see Holyfield's corpse kicked around by the Klits..

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          Originally posted by Spiegelo
          I don't know if I'm trying to see Holyfield's corpse kicked around by the Klits..
          i DON'T know if i want to see that either... that's why Holyfield will be defending himself when getting i n the ring with either... let's stop overdramatizing.. there's no boxer alive that is capable of killing Holyfield in the ring no matter what age he's at. We've stated that he's going to die.. since he got his license back & he's proven in each fight against big hitters that he can hold his own.

          We've graduated from letting HOLYFIELD fight just as long as we don't put him in with The Klitschko's... do you guys honestly think if he gets a shot at either Klitschko.. he's going to lay down.... he's going to be pumped to shock the entire world.. & the cautious Klitschko at worst would win a unanimous decision as he would be scared to take any risk even with a 50 yr old Evander... then again scratch that.. he might be tempted to & one thing Evander still has is his boxing experience & knowledge.. if Klitschko actually tries to kill Evander & NOT merely let the jab carry him to victory... you will see the Evander of old doing the impossible.

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            #6
            Originally posted by jimmy1569
            i DON'T know if i want to see that either... that's why Holyfield will be defending himself when getting i n the ring with either... let's stop overdramatizing.. there's no boxer alive that is capable of killing Holyfield in the ring no matter what age he's at. We've stated that he's going to die.. since he got his license back & he's proven in each fight against big hitters that he can hold his own.

            We've graduated from letting HOLYFIELD fight just as long as we don't put him in with The Klitschko's... do you guys honestly think if he gets a shot at either Klitschko.. he's going to lay down.... he's going to be pumped to shock the entire world.. & the cautious Klitschko at worst would win a unanimous decision as he would be scared to take any risk even with a 50 yr old Evander... then again scratch that.. he might be tempted to & one thing Evander still has is his boxing experience & knowledge.. if Klitschko actually tries to kill Evander & NOT merely let the jab carry him to victory... you will see the Evander of old doing the impossible.
            I still don't know man, a lot of his previous fights have led me to believe he won't fair too well against the K bros.. I mean he got beaten pretty soundly by Toney, Byrd, Lennox (both times), Larry Donald, and Ibragimov completely neutralized him. It's great that he had a decent performance against Valuev, but Wlad is more cautious when he's fighting someone with the reflexes, speed, and power of Haye. Holyfield's arsenal isn't what it once was, and his eye was badly cut just 2 fights ago. I love the guy, and wish him the best, but I don't understand how you can see that fight going any way other than the K bros testing his conditioning and scar tissue, and Holyfield failing the test.

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            • bojangles1987
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              Not in my eyes. Povetkin shouldn't be champion of anything.

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                Originally posted by Spiegelo
                I still don't know man, a lot of his previous fights have led me to believe he won't fair too well against the K bros.. I mean he got beaten pretty soundly by Toney, Byrd, Lennox (both times), Larry Donald, and Ibragimov completely neutralized him. It's great that he had a decent performance against Valuev, but Wlad is more cautious when he's fighting someone with the reflexes, speed, and power of Haye. Holyfield's arsenal isn't what it once was, and his eye was badly cut just 2 fights ago. I love the guy, and wish him the best, but I don't understand how you can see that fight going any way other than the K bros testing his conditioning and scar tissue, and Holyfield failing the test.
                I honestly believe in the man's heart & if Wlad does actually open up thinking he's got a dead man walking.. everyone better be prepared for the shock of all shocks that might even topple Douglas/Tyson. He actually said in an interview that Vitali would be easier to fight for him than Wlad because of the fact Vitali opens up & that might create countering possibilities.. i believe he'll fight Wlad first & he's most vulnerfable to Holyfield.. will FEEL THE PRESSURE of the entire boxing world to EITHER put HOLY OUT his misery or NOT hurt him too bad.

                This crossroad of doubt over his gameplan will be his undoing as Wlad will feel the heavy pressure of having to KO Holyfield.. either way he loses cuase if he ko's Holy.. HE'LL never hear the end of it & if he carries him to a decision he'll receive criticism like he's never seen before... this uncertainty will be his undoing & he'll be fighting tentatively & trust me if Holy by chance gets past the jab he's letting his hands go unlike Haye who could only lunge.. Evander at some point will find a way to get inside & put a scare into Wlad before he attempts to hug him.

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