Comments Thread For: Ortiz: Mayweather Never Impressed Me, A lot of Hype!

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No disrespect but that is some dumb ****!!!! If the testing is only scheduled during camp why do people get caught? Remember people get caught all the time before and since Mayweather's BS!! Vargas and Toney to name a few.. Why doesn't everyone load up on PEDs and then sign to fight or stop 9 weeks out????? TESTING IS NOT AN ISSUE MANNY AGREED IN MAY OF 2010If its such a big deal, why didn't Floyd ask for it for 40 fights. I'll tell you why because he knows he'll get his a$$ kicked!!! Jesse Vargas and no other Mayweather Promotion fighters get the same protection... BS + BS - BS = BS!!!! If Manny is such a midget and easy to beat why cry for NEW RULES??? I'll whup my nephew's a$$ and for 50 mil, I wouldn't ask for a test like the other 40 times because I know I'll whup his a$$. But, if I ask for a test that I never asked for before. One can believe that I know I can't win and I think that my nephew is so good that when I see him fight that I think he is on something and I know I can't win. Manny said and I quote "I'll take ANY test the COMMISSION ask for." Only a ***** can find a problem with that statement....

Look, Im no PED expert, but if you read comments from experts, Conte/Tygard/whoever, it is clear that you need to cycle them. No athlete/fighter has PED's in their system during the fight, or they will all fail the pre-fight test.

The whole idea is to cycle them, gain an advantage by the benefits that you receive whilst training with PED's in your system, and then cycle off them.

The bottom line is this.....

FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless, and could not possibly cause a problem for a clean fighter.

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Look, Im no PED expert, but if you read comments from experts, Conte/Tygard/whoever, it is clear that you need to cycle them. No athlete/fighter has PED's in their system during the fight, or they will all fail the pre-fight test.

The whole idea is to cycle them, gain an advantage by the benefits that you receive whilst training with PED's in your system, and then cycle off them.

The bottom line is this.....

FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless, and could not possibly cause a problem for a clean fighter.

Look whatever the reasons were are old news now since he agreed to take the test! But, the point remains that the commission makes the rules and not the Mayweather's... The UFC is more dangerous than boxing and yet I never heard of a UFC fighter crying like a little B about drug test. Everybody in boxing and the UFC takes the SAC test with no problem. And the one guy who did 40 times but now can't fight without it lets me know he is scared ****less!!!! U don't bone 40 times without a jimmy hat and then get scared on the 41st time. Kobe doesn't ask Lebron for extra test and Liddell didn't ask Jackson for extra test. Your boy was scared and Manny agreed to the test since May 2010 and the fight has yet to be made... So any agrueement about the test is a waste of time. He has agreed to random test!!!! Another thing, the cycle must be 4 to 8 weeks so the initial Pacquiao offer would have prevented that. There is no 2 week cycle for PED, The pre fight physical and the 21 day cut off would have left a two week window since he agreed to do one fight night. Urine and Hair-Samples would have been sufficent for those two weeks unless you're talking about EPO and EPO is not relavant because you need to compare the withe blood cells during a 6 month period and the test Mayweather wanted would have only been for 8 weeks. Bottom Line, shut up and fight the way you fought the first 40 times and the way everybody else fight or admit that you truley believe that Manny is on something because he is just too good... Why else ask for the test??? You think Ali would turn down 50mil to test a scrub that he knows he'll easily beat like Chuck Webner?

I have no arguement with what u said because its true, its just Manny has agreed to the test since May of 2010 when the Mayweathers claimed there were no negotiations and Greenburg of HBO blew that lie out of the water... Later Bro

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^^scared of needles.

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Look whatever the reasons were are old news now since he agreed to take the test! But, the point remains that the commission makes the rules and not the Mayweather's... The UFC is more dangerous than boxing and yet I never heard of a UFC fighter crying like a little B about drug test. Everybody in boxing and the UFC takes the SAC test with no problem. And the one guy who did 40 times but now can't fight without it lets me know he is scared ****less!!!! U don't bone 40 times without a jimmy hat and then get scared on the 41st time. Kobe doesn't ask Lebron for extra test and Liddell didn't ask Jackson for extra test. Your boy was scared and Manny agreed to the test since May 2010 and the fight has yet to be made... So any agrueement about the test is a waste of time. He has agreed to random test!!!! Another thing, the cycle must be 4 to 8 weeks so the initial Pacquiao offer would have prevented that. There is no 2 week cycle for PED, The pre fight physical and the 21 day cut off would have left a two week window since he agreed to do one fight night. Urine and Hair-Samples would have been sufficent for those two weeks unless you're talking about EPO and EPO is not relavant because you need to compare the withe blood cells during a 6 month period and the test Mayweather wanted would have only been for 8 weeks. Bottom Line, shut up and fight the way you fought the first 40 times and the way everybody else fight or admit that you truley believe that Manny is on something because he is just too good... Why else ask for the test??? You think Ali would turn down 50mil to test a scrub that he knows he'll easily beat like Chuck Webner?

I have no arguement with what u said because its true, its just Manny has agreed to the test since May of 2010 when the Mayweathers claimed there were no negotiations and Greenburg of HBO blew that lie out of the water... Later Bro

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Look whatever the reasons were are old news now since he agreed to take the test! But, the point remains that the commission makes the rules and not the Mayweather's... The UFC is more dangerous than boxing and yet I never heard of a UFC fighter crying like a little B about drug test. Everybody in boxing and the UFC takes the SAC test with no problem. And the one guy who did 40 times but now can't fight without it lets me know he is scared ****less!!!! U don't bone 40 times without a jimmy hat and then get scared on the 41st time. Kobe doesn't ask Lebron for extra test and Liddell didn't ask Jackson for extra test. Your boy was scared and Manny agreed to the test since May 2010 and the fight has yet to be made... So any agrueement about the test is a waste of time. He has agreed to random test!!!! Another thing, the cycle must be 4 to 8 weeks so the initial Pacquiao offer would have prevented that. There is no 2 week cycle for PED, The pre fight physical and the 21 day cut off would have left a two week window since he agreed to do one fight night. Urine and Hair-Samples would have been sufficent for those two weeks unless you're talking about EPO and EPO is not relavant because you need to compare the withe blood cells during a 6 month period and the test Mayweather wanted would have only been for 8 weeks. Bottom Line, shut up and fight the way you fought the first 40 times and the way everybody else fight or admit that you truley believe that Manny is on something because he is just too good... Why else ask for the test??? You think Ali would turn down 50mil to test a scrub that he knows he'll easily beat like Chuck Webner?

I have no arguement with what u said because its true, its just Manny has agreed to the test since May of 2010 when the Mayweathers claimed there were no negotiations and Greenburg of HBO blew that lie out of the water... Later Bro

The problem is, the " Floyd is not the commission " excuse, does not ring true either.

If Team Pacquiao are only prepared to operate strictly under the au****es of "the commission"..... they why the $10mil per-pound weight penalty?

What is wrong with the usual penalties that apply under the jurisdiction of the commission?

And why the catch-weight demands for Margarito and Cotto ?

And, here is the real stickler, what about using 8oz gloves for a JMW title bout?

Clearly we can see that the "only if the commission requires it" excuse from Team Pacquiao really means..... only if it suits us.

Seeing that excuse doesnt really fly, and seeing that blood tests are completely harmless..... it seems unfathomable why that fight hasnt happened yet.

And if you are correct..... then why did Team Pacquiao give 8 different silly excuses, instead of simply stating the genuine reason?

Why did USADA suddenly become corrupt ?

Nobody else has a problem making a fight with Mayweather, just saying.

BTW bro, you need to get up to speed, there were NO negotiations.

Aside from the mountains of proof indicating otherwise that has already been posted on this site, check out the negotiation timeline on fighthype.

There were no negotiations, that would have been clearly impossible.

FACT: Bob Arum lied about the "deadline", that is not even debatable.

The dates on the negotiation time-frame mentioned by Greenburg were contradicted by Bob Arum himself. Greenburg stated May 2nd, and yet 7 weeks after that date Arum publicly stated that GBP were representing Mayweather.

It was actually pretty obvious what Arum was up to when 6 people who belong to 3 completely different business organisations, each of those people having first hand information - 4 of whom would be ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to that fight being made - ALL, categorically stating that..... "there were no negotiations" !!

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The problem is, the " Floyd is not the commission " excuse, does not ring true either.

If Team Pacquiao are only prepared to operate strictly under the au****es of "the commission"..... they why the $10mil per-pound weight penalty?

What is wrong with the usual penalties that apply under the jurisdiction of the commission?

The penalty weight is legit because Mayweather already failed to make weight against Marquez. Whereas, Pac never failed a blood test. You know this!

And, here is the real stickler, what about using 8oz gloves for a JMW title bout?

8oz gloves actually favors the stronger and bigger man which was Margarito!! Commentators actually gave props to Pac for allowing that, but obviously you won't!

And if you are correct..... then why did Team Pacquiao give 8 different silly excuses, instead of simply stating the genuine reason?

It's obvious the real reason is that Pac is superstitious about giving blood 1 day before the fight because the last time he did that against Morales, he lost! Pac passed that blood test by the way! The superstitious excuse would never fly and deservedly so!

Why did USADA suddenly become corrupt ?

Pac trains in the Philippines and only WADA has jurisdiction. So WADA and USADA must work together. The Mayweathers only want USADA and are trying to dictate Pac to only train in the U.S.

BTW bro, you need to get up to speed, there were NO negotiations.

The dates on the negotiation time-frame mentioned by Greenburg were contradicted by Bob Arum himself. Greenburg stated May 2nd, and yet 7 weeks after that date Arum publicly stated that GBP were representing Mayweather.

It was actually pretty obvious what Arum was up to when 6 people who belong to 3 completely different business organisations, each of those people having first hand information - 4 of whom would be ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to that fight being made - ALL, categorically stating that..... "there were no negotiations" !!

Ross Greenburg was the appointed MEDIATOR between Top Rank and Golden Boy. If the president of HBO Sports publicly says negotiations took place, then they took place!! Period. Why risk legal action against HBO/Time Warner for making false statements to the public? So negotiations took place!

As for the business organizations "critical" to the event, none of them were sitting in the negotiating table regarding the fight!!! Negotiations were strictly between Arum (TR), Greenburg (HBO), Schaefer (GB) and the reps of Pac (Koncz) and Floyd (Haymon). Other than the site, the other businesses can make preparations, but none of them get directly involved until the contract for the fight is signed by the fighters and promoters!!

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^^^damm u need to post more often.. always checking these fools.. lol...

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^^^damm u need to post more often.. always checking these fools.. lol...

Not surprised to see you support another dishonest flag-waving fanboy.

Clowns stick together.

And that whiney b1tch adp023, or ADP02, or whatever ****ty account that non-boxing wally happens to be using, would not know a good fighter if he punched him in the face.

I bet that post was a real whine-a-thon, full of absurd childish reasoning.....

.... and I bet you loved it

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And that whiney b1tch adp023, or ADP02, or whatever ****ty account that non-boxing wally happens to be using, would not know a good fighter if he punched him in the face.

I am NOT ADP02!!! or any other account you are accusing me of!!

Don't care if you believe it or not, that is the TRUTH!!!

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This message is hidden because adp023 is a ****-head.

Sir whinealot.....
you get the standard reply reserved for dishonest whiney b1tches, have fun

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004