top 10 heavyweights ever?

[RichCCFC]

Not a historical overview, rather who do you think the most effective heavyweights ever were?

What I mean is Marciano would really get murdered by Klitschko's, Lewis etc yet he ranks higher.

[jrosales13]

You want the list to be based off who would win in a H2H match up?

[RichCCFC]

You want the list to be based off who would win in a H2H match up?

Yep, exactly.

I think the Klitschko's would be up there, as would Lewis.

[jrosales13]

Yep, exactly.

I think the Klitschko's would be up there, as would Lewis.

But, if fighter A beats fighter B, and then fighter B beats fighter C, and then fighter C beats fighter A.

Who would be rank #1?

[RichCCFC]

It is tough to call, but I think Muhammad Ali was the perfect heavyweight size for speed, length and weight so he'd hold his own with the fast similar sized guys and also the big goliaths of late.

[edgarg]

It is tough to call, but I think Muhammad Ali was the perfect heavyweight size for speed, length and weight so he'd hold his own with the fast similar sized guys and also the big goliaths of late.

That opinion is why this thread will go nowhere,

[JAB5239]

Top 20 head to head at there peak

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Mike Tyson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Evander Holyfield
7. George Foreman
8. Vitaly Klitschko
9. Joe Frazier
10. Rid**** Bowe
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Wladimir Klitschko
13. Harry Wills
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Jim Jeffries
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Gene Tunney
19. Sam Langford
20. Max Schmeling

Have fun, I can't wait for the responses!

[edgarg]

Not a historical overview, rather who do you think the most effective heavyweights ever were?

What I mean is Marciano would really get murdered by Klitschko's, Lewis etc yet he ranks higher.

Marciano shouldn't be even near the first 100 heavyweights, a completely Mafia manufactured champion fed set-ups, old men, washed up and worn out veterans, and kids.
Many with faked, built records themselves.

[junior gong]

Top 20 head to head at there peak

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Mike Tyson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Evander Holyfield
7. George Foreman
8. Vitaly Klitschko
9. Joe Frazier
10. Rid**** Bowe
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Wladimir Klitschko
13. Harry Wills
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Jim Jeffries
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Gene Tunney
19. Sam Langford
20. Max Schmeling

Have fun, I can't wait for the responses!

Nice list, I think Foreman is a bit too high though.

[Vadrigar.]

Top ten Head to head against all 9 other opposition.:

Muhammad Ali (9-0-0)
Larry Holmes (8-1-0)
Joe Louis (7-2-0)
George Foreman (6-3-0)
Sonny Liston (5-4-0)
Mike Tyson (1-8-0)
Joe Frazier (4-5-0)
Evander Holyfield (1-8-0)
lennox Lewis (3-6-0)
Rid**** Bowe (2-7-0)