Where do YOU rate the Klitschkos?

[RubenSonny]

Such a pathetic **** he is

It's comical at this point, still waiting to see a semi-decent post from him.....

[jrosales13]

It's comical at this point, still waiting to see a semi-decent post from him.....

He's incapable of having one.

[cupocity303]

The one thing I dislike about the Klitschko, besides them being racist trolls(most of them). Is that many like to combine both guys resume and accomplishments. They like to mesh them together. When they're two different fighters all together with two different resumes and accomplishments.

Wlad IMO is a sure fire first ballot HOF'er.

I don't think Vitaly is a HOF'er. I wouldn't vote for him. Granted he's still fighting and can accomplish more.

I think Wlad is arguably a top 15 ATG HW. I don't think Vitaly is an ATG HW at all. Not even close.

But, yet most of their fans for some reason like to combine the both to make them seem better/greater than what they truly are.

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[cupocity303]

Still waiting for you to show me him being a beast on the inside

I already did in the same thread where I left you.

Your efforts are fruitless, dolt.

[RubenSonny]

I already did in the same thread where I left you.

Your efforts are fruitless, dolt.

No you didn't because you can't, either your trolling or you don't know what your looking at if you think Peter was a beast on the inside.

[edgarg]

There will always be people who have no respect for the Klitschkos. If they keep winning, such people will just keep on saying their opposition is no good.

You'll find some of the people who really hate the Klitschkos are racists like RubenSonny who deeply believe all non-black boxers are athletically inferior. The same people discredit other non-black boxers like Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pacquiao.
The other Klitschko haters are mentally ill self-loathing fat middle-age white men who spend their days collecting welfare cheques and sitting at their outdated computers, harassing and insulting the Klitschko fans. Some white man must have done something very bad to them when they were children, to cause their mental problems.

The reality is: you can't change the opinion of a racist like RubenSonny or a mentally disturbed person like Joseph Benedetti.

On a positive note, many mainstream boxing fans who had doubts about the Klitschkos in the past have come to respect them more during the past few years.

You are very acute. Someone did do something to these guys when they were young. They were made either to get off the streets and go to school, or if past school age, to get off welfare and go and get a job. That must have been during the Ronald Regan era. That can cour a man.....of a certain type.......and the Malcolm X's of this world don 't help.

Nor the Jeremiah Wrights.

[edgarg]

Although the Klitschko era isn't done, and, even though it's lasted far longer than and more devastatingly than any other heavyweight champion era other than maybe Joe Louis, it looks as if it'll last until they CHOSE to retire. This has never occurred before.

I certainly class both well up in the top 20 heavyweights of all time. And I agree with the Frazier assessment. If a ham fisted tank like Foreman could batter Frazier in a couple of rds ignoring his "bobbing and weaving, most of which never had much effect but looked good, then the Klitschko's could be committing manslaughter. The good thing about Frazier and which got him most of his plaudits is that he was a great and very UP FRONT "Trier". And he outlasted Ali, who wasn't strong enough to beat him off, and was past his best anyway, just that bit too slow enough to be backed up against the ropes. It was a terrific fight because they were so evenly matched, not because they were "so good".

But I don't agree with the Tyson opinion. Tyson's top speed bobbing and weaving was not really a defence, it was an attacking means to get close to his opponent without being hurt, whilst putting him in the position of being an attacker all through his approach. he was always in perfect postiion to hit, and whether he hit or missed, also be in position to hit again on the return, by slightly altering his body weight, causing the many 4-5 punch combos.

Until he lost his focus to lack of oversight control, geisha girls and Don King's enticements, I regard him as being the most dangerous opponent that the Klitschko's might ever have. At his peak he was unbeatable, just like the Klitschko's, and this can be said of several others. There is no need to have to pit them against each other to give them their due, and any opined result is purely that- an opinion, well presented or not.

[edgarg]

I most definitely do not share your opinion of Hopkins. Guys like Harold Johnson Archie Moore, or Ezzard Charles would make "collops" of him. and never let him get away with any of his dirty stuff which is a big part of his success. Maxie Rosenbloom would make a fool of him, as would Jimmy Slattery or Billy Conn.

Thy grew up with his kind of foul tacics, and probably could teach him a few lessons thereof. At middleweight, even though past his best, Robinson would kill him, He'd hardly lay a glove on Robinson.

[edgarg]

lol completely unnecessiary

You sound not too bright, but I'm sure you are better than that. Klitschko's loss to Ross Purrity was quite simple to explain and even EXCULPATE. He was a newly turned pro, having his 25th fight in his first 24 months as a pro, was a bit worn down, weighed 225, Killed this hard rock guy for 10 rds and collapsed in the 11th, and was stopped in his corner at the break.

All this says is that Purrity had a cast iron jaw, the best ever, and the ref should have stopped the fight probably 5-6 times, because the way he won, was the only way he could have won. He took more punishment than even David Izon at his worst. The modern Joe Grim. It tells us something also that (I think) VK was the first guy to actually KO Purrity, who HAD a reputation of being unKO'able

[edgarg]

Fail. Vitali is an admitted steriod abuser.

You have a habit of telling lies in a perfectly innocent, inocuous way. Klitschko was NOT a steroid abuser. This is WELL documented and you can't slip your insinuation by. He used a medically prescribed ointment to treat a nagging leg injury received in Kickboxing. He wasn't aware that it was banned, and freely reported it without subterfuge. You know of course, that VK continued with lickboxing for a couple of years before concentrating solely on boxing.