Where do YOU rate the Klitschkos?

[LeG00N]

top 150..........


I Will provide no factual evidence to support my stance.

[dan_cov]

the 60's and 70's overated???lol and Frazier POOR MANS tUA???WOW MAN THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE..fRAZIERS STYLE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AGAINST WLAD WAS HE COULD WEAVE HIS WAY IN PAST HIS JAB.BUT VITALI WOULD BEAT FRAZIER DOWN CAUSE HE'S AWKWARD AND HAS GOOD REFLEXES

I normally agree with pretty much everything you say, but didn't you say Tyson was a can & his head movement would be ineffective against Wlad? I see your point but weaving past that jab is a hell of a lot easier said than done. It's not a case of weaving past it, it's a case of closing down a huge distance, without getting tagged, landing & getting out without getting tagged. They also tend to lean back & sucker you in, in a sort of Carl Froch in his younger days did & draw you onto shots. Easier said than done, especially when you're giving away well over half a foot & a huge reach adavantage etc.

[Deal With It]

Vitali is 10x the fighter Wlad will ever be

Only on paper. Vitali is the most grossly overrated boxer in NSB history.

Say the Klitschkos was around in Fraziers era

They would be a non-factor.

who did Frazier ever beat apart from 1 win over Ali?

Who did Joe Frazier ever lose to that was as bad as Ross Purrity?

[The Hammer]

There will always be people who have no respect for the Klitschkos. If they keep winning, such people will just keep on saying their opposition is no good.

You'll find some of the people who really hate the Klitschkos are racists like RubenSonny who deeply believe all non-black boxers are athletically inferior. The same people discredit other non-black boxers like Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pacquiao.
The other Klitschko haters are mentally ill self-loathing fat middle-age white men who spend their days collecting welfare cheques and sitting at their outdated computers, harassing and insulting the Klitschko fans. Some white man must have done something very bad to them when they were children, to cause their mental problems.

The reality is: you can't change the opinion of a racist like RubenSonny or a mentally disturbed person like Joseph Benedetti.

On a positive note, many mainstream boxing fans who had doubts about the Klitschkos in the past have come to respect them more during the past few years.

[jrosales13]

There will always be people who have no respect for the Klitschkos. If they keep winning, such people will just keep on saying their opposition is no good.

You'll find some of the people who really hate the Klitschkos are racists like RubenSonny who deeply believe all non-black boxers are athletically inferior. The same people discredit other non-black boxers like Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pacquiao.

The other Klitschko haters are mentally ill self-loathing fat middle-age white men who spend their days collecting welfare cheques and harassing and insulting the Klitschko fans on their outdated computers. Some white man must have done something very bad to them when they were children, to cause their mental problems.

The reality is: you can't change the opinion of a racist like RubenSonny or a mentally disturbed person like Joseph Benedetti.

On a positive note, many mainstream boxing fans who had doubts about the Klitschkos n the past have come to respect them more during the past few years.

RubenSonny is not a racist. There is nothing racist about the guy. The same can't be said for you.

Jabs, is a great knowledgeable poster. Nothing mentally disturbed about him either. The same can't be said about you however.

[dan_cov]

Only on paper. Vitali is the most grossly overrated boxer in NSB history.



They would be a non-factor.



Who did Joe Frazier ever lose to that was as bad as Ross Purrity?

Good point who did Frazier lose to that was as bad as Ross Purity? Nobody BUT he drew against Floyd Cummings? Hopkins lost his first fight. Pacquaio lost to Torrecampo, etc etc

Fighters mature, many many greats have lost early in their career & gone on to greater things. Hagler was very good, he took two losses to lesser guys then went on to destroy every ****er & become one of the greatest middleweights to ever live if not the greatest. Sometimes it takes a wake up call or two & a few adjustments.

[dan_cov]

Genuinely think a lot of the Klitschko hate is racist. It's like watching a guy in any sport really that is so destructive it looks fixed & then you add the fact they are two brothers, it's kind of hard to believe.

Let me tell you a fact - You run a car, a top of the range car on **** fuel, it'll perform like a bag of vvank!

These guys train ******ly hard. The guys like Martinez, Floyd, Klitschko's, B-Hop, etc
Not only that but they don't drink, take drugs, etc, there experience & conditioning, ring I-Q. is outstanding.

[kiDynamite92]

Only on paper. Vitali is the most grossly overrated boxer in NSB history.



They would be a non-factor.



Who did Joe Frazier ever lose to that was as bad as Ross Purrity?

not really. If anyone's overrated it's Wlad for sure. Vitali is MUCH better than, he'd easily beat his a$$ down even at the age of 40. Wlad can't fight for **** all he does is 1-2 1-2 1-2 vitali has a much better variety of punches, although he's show like hell, i can still see him landing on Wlad. Vitali's chin well that's a 100x better than Wlad's

[Deal With It]

Good point who did Frazier lose to that was as bad as Ross Purity? Nobody
BUT he drew against Floyd Cummings? Hopkins lost his first fight. Pacquaio lost to Torrecampo, etc etc

Fighters mature, many many greats have lost early in their career & gone on to greater things. Hagler was very good, he took two losses to lesser guys then went on to destroy every ****er & become one of the greatest middleweights to ever live if not the greatest. Sometimes it takes a wake up call or two & a few adjustments.

There's difference between fighting a guy to a draw when you're in your late 30's after a 5 year layoff or losing a majority decision in a 4 round match in your 1st professional fight after just getting out of jail and getting KTFO by a journeyman in your 24th pro fight while in your physical prime after an extensive amateur career.

If you can't see the difference between Frazier's draw with Cummings and Hopkins & Hagler's losses when compared to Wlad's 3 losses, than sir, you have exposed yourself as a troll, either that or a blind hugger of male genetalia.

[kiDynamite92]

There's difference between fighting a guy to a draw when you're in your late 30's after a 5 year layoff or losing a majority decision in a 4 round match in your 1st professional fight after just getting out of jail and getting KTFO by a journeyman in your 24th pro fight while in your physical prime after an extensive amateur career.

If you can't see the difference between Frazier's draw with Cummings and Hopkins & Hagler's losses when compared to Wlad's 3 losses, than sir, you have exposed yourself as a troll, either that or a blind hugger of male genetalia.

lol completely unnecessiary