Where do YOU rate the Klitschkos?

[dan_cov]

Is the H/W as dead as made out or are the Klitschkos just that damn effective? I truely believe/know that in any era there styles, size, & skills would of gave anybody major problems.

I honestly do think they get so much stick it's unreal. Both haven't lost in nearly a decade & they have beaten everybody. From fast slick guys to big K.O artists, you name it.

A lot of these guys have been destroying everything until they meet one of the K's & they have barely lost a round, then they fight a Klitschko & get KTFO in the process, barely winning 1 round. It's to the point I think if they was even in any other era & did this everybody would say the division was at an all time low.

Imo we have never seen this before and likely never will, we should respect them both now & fair play a good few are coming round. I also get fed up hearing ''They are boring''
Vitali is not boring and if he is it's because his opponent is scared for his life, pretty much the same with Wlad though he picks his shots better & likes too soften guys up before he goes in for the kill.

They have broken so many records it's ridiculous but I feel they get so little respect, it makes me sick.

I think the golden era is so damn overrated...
This brings me to one question...How does a guy with nothing but a left hook & a decent lateral movement, a guy that is barely 6ft with no jab, two left feet & pretty much a trim but poor mans David Tua beat a Klitschko?
Yes you got it Joe Frazier. I seen you all vote like 25-3 saying Frazier would muller both brothers, you talk about Wlad having no chin HA! Joe Frazier, yes he was damn good, a BEAST in fact but his chin was a ****ing joke & he was limited as hell. HE WOULDN'T OF WON A SINGLE ROUND AGAINST EITHER BROTHER!

And if he fought Vitali, styles make fights, Vitali would of put him into a coma.


You lot on here are a joke IMO & another guy you underrate is Hopkins who has one of the best boxing brains & C.V's EVER! Easily a top 20 of all time, if not better.

Klitschko's - easily top 10 heavyweights, if not in the top 5.

[RubenSonny]

Is the H/W as dead as made out or are the Klitschkos just that damn effective? I truely believe/know that in any era there styles, size, & skills would of gave anybody major problems.

I honestly do think they get so much stick it's unreal. Both haven't lost in nearly a decade & they have beaten everybody. From fast slick guys to big K.O artists, you name it.

A lot of these guys have been destroying everything until they meet one of the K's & they have barely lost a round, then they fight a Klitschko & get KTFO in the process, barely winning 1 round. It's to the point I think if they was even in any other era & did this everybody would say the division was at an all time low.

Imo we have never seen this before and likely never will, we should respect them both now & fair play a good few are coming round. I also get fed up hearing ''They are boring''
Vitali is not boring and if he is it's because his opponent is scared for his life, pretty much the same with Wlad though he picks his shots better & likes too soften guys up before he goes in for the kill.

They have broken so many records it's ridiculous but I feel they get so little respect, it makes me sick.

I think the golden era is so damn overrated...
This brings me to one question...How does a guy with nothing but a left hook & a decent lateral movement, a guy that is barely 6ft with no jab, two left feet & pretty much a trim but poor mans David Tua beat a Klitschko?
Yes you got it Joe Frazier. I seen you all vote like 25-3 saying Frazier would muller both brothers, you talk about Wlad having no chin HA! Joe Frazier, yes he was damn good, a BEAST in fact but his chin was a ****ing joke & he was limited as hell. HE WOULDN'T OF WON A SINGLE ROUND AGAINST EITHER BROTHER!

And if he fought Vitali, styles make fights, Vitali would of put him into a coma.


You lot on here are a joke IMO & another guy you underrate is Hopkins who has one of the best boxing brains & C.V's EVER! Easily a top 20 of all time, if not better.

Klitschko's - easily top 10 heavyweights, if not in the top 5.

@ anyone thinking him and Tua fight anything a like.

[kiDynamite92]

Is the H/W as dead as made out or are the Klitschkos just that damn effective? I truely believe/know that in any era there styles, size, & skills would of gave anybody major problems.

I honestly do think they get so much stick it's unreal. Both haven't lost in nearly a decade & they have beaten everybody. From fast slick guys to big K.O artists, you name it.

A lot of these guys have been destroying everything until they meet one of the K's & they have barely lost a round, then they fight a Klitschko & get KTFO in the process, barely winning 1 round. It's to the point I think if they was even in any other era & did this everybody would say the division was at an all time low.

Imo we have never seen this before and likely never will, we should respect them both now & fair play a good few are coming round. I also get fed up hearing ''They are boring''
Vitali is not boring and if he is it's because his opponent is scared for his life, pretty much the same with Wlad though he picks his shots better & likes too soften guys up before he goes in for the kill.

They have broken so many records it's ridiculous but I feel they get so little respect, it makes me sick.

I think the golden era is so damn overrated...
This brings me to one question...How does a guy with nothing but a left hook & a decent lateral movement, a guy that is barely 6ft with no jab, two left feet & pretty much a trim but poor mans David Tua beat a Klitschko?
Yes you got it Joe Frazier. I seen you all vote like 25-3 saying Frazier would muller both brothers, you talk about Wlad having no chin HA! Joe Frazier, yes he was damn good, a BEAST in fact but his chin was a ****ing joke & he was limited as hell. HE WOULDN'T OF WON A SINGLE ROUND AGAINST EITHER BROTHER!

And if he fought Vitali, styles make fights, Vitali would of put him into a coma.


You lot on here are a joke IMO & another guy you underrate is Hopkins who has one of the best boxing brains & C.V's EVER! Easily a top 20 of all time, if not better.

Klitschko's - easily top 10 heavyweights, if not in the top 5.

don't ever post again.

[Jim Jeffries]

[gatorDelux]

Is the H/W as dead as made out or are the Klitschkos just that damn effective? I truely believe/know that in any era there styles, size, & skills would of gave anybody major problems.

I honestly do think they get so much stick it's unreal. Both haven't lost in nearly a decade & they have beaten everybody. From fast slick guys to big K.O artists, you name it.

A lot of these guys have been destroying everything until they meet one of the K's & they have barely lost a round, then they fight a Klitschko & get KTFO in the process, barely winning 1 round. It's to the point I think if they was even in any other era & did this everybody would say the division was at an all time low.

Imo we have never seen this before and likely never will, we should respect them both now & fair play a good few are coming round. I also get fed up hearing ''They are boring''
Vitali is not boring and if he is it's because his opponent is scared for his life, pretty much the same with Wlad though he picks his shots better & likes too soften guys up before he goes in for the kill.

They have broken so many records it's ridiculous but I feel they get so little respect, it makes me sick.

I think the golden era is so damn overrated...
This brings me to one question...How does a guy with nothing but a left hook & a decent lateral movement, a guy that is barely 6ft with no jab, two left feet & pretty much a trim but poor mans David Tua beat a Klitschko?
Yes you got it Joe Frazier. I seen you all vote like 25-3 saying Frazier would muller both brothers, you talk about Wlad having no chin HA! Joe Frazier, yes he was damn good, a BEAST in fact but his chin was a ****ing joke & he was limited as hell. HE WOULDN'T OF WON A SINGLE ROUND AGAINST EITHER BROTHER!

And if he fought Vitali, styles make fights, Vitali would of put him into a coma.


You lot on here are a joke IMO & another guy you underrate is Hopkins who has one of the best boxing brains & C.V's EVER! Easily a top 20 of all time, if not better.

Klitschko's - easily top 10 heavyweights, if not in the top 5.

well....

if joe frazier sucks....

and the fighters wlad/vitali have beaten are worse than frazier....

then they arent very good at all....


i think they are top 50 hw

[The_Demon]

When they retire il have Wlad around 15-20 and Vitali around 25

[cupocity303]

The Joe Frazier thing was uncalled for. You had a pretty good argument, posing it as a question, until that part. It wasn't necessary.



We all know Sam Peter >>> Joe Frazier, but lets keep that on the down-low.

[kiDynamite92]

When they retire il have Wlad around 15-20 and Vitali around 25

Vitali is 10x the fighter Wlad will ever be, should be rated much higher than Wlad. They're prob both top 35 HW

[dan_cov]

The Joe Frazier thing was uncalled for. You had a pretty good argument, posing it as a question, until that part. It wasn't necessary.



We all know Sam Peter >>> Joe Frazier, but lets keep that on the down-low.

Haha the thing is I am serious & people are scared to say it. Say the Klitschkos was around in Fraziers era & he was around today, I am telling you the whole world would agree with where I am coming from. And it's b/s to say otherwise, who did Frazier ever beat apart from 1 win over Ali?
Who did he beat with say Wlads style, his range, accuracy, power, speed, jab, athleticism etc? Oh right, nobody! Yet Wlads beat technically much sounder guys with better chins, movement etc etc
I don't call at least 8/10 of 50/50 fights, often huge underdogs for nothing. The sad thing is it can't be proven either way but I am telling you this golden era bull**** is ******ly looked into with no knowledge what so ever & most of them was trash with the exceptions of Hagler, Hearns, Pryor, Tunney, Sugar Ray, Langford, Greb, Armstrong & a few others.

''Great fight in the 70's, he beat I dunno say Duran so that must mean he'd beat so & so''

Oh please, it's utter ****!

[Larry the boss]

Is the H/W as dead as made out or are the Klitschkos just that damn effective? I truely believe/know that in any era there styles, size, & skills would of gave anybody major problems.

I honestly do think they get so much stick it's unreal. Both haven't lost in nearly a decade & they have beaten everybody. From fast slick guys to big K.O artists, you name it.

A lot of these guys have been destroying everything until they meet one of the K's & they have barely lost a round, then they fight a Klitschko & get KTFO in the process, barely winning 1 round. It's to the point I think if they was even in any other era & did this everybody would say the division was at an all time low.

Imo we have never seen this before and likely never will, we should respect them both now & fair play a good few are coming round. I also get fed up hearing ''They are boring''
Vitali is not boring and if he is it's because his opponent is scared for his life, pretty much the same with Wlad though he picks his shots better & likes too soften guys up before he goes in for the kill.

They have broken so many records it's ridiculous but I feel they get so little respect, it makes me sick.

I think the golden era is so damn overrated...
This brings me to one question...How does a guy with nothing but a left hook & a decent lateral movement, a guy that is barely 6ft with no jab, two left feet & pretty much a trim but poor mans David Tua beat a Klitschko?
Yes you got it Joe Frazier. I seen you all vote like 25-3 saying Frazier would muller both brothers, you talk about Wlad having no chin HA! Joe Frazier, yes he was damn good, a BEAST in fact but his chin was a ****ing joke & he was limited as hell. HE WOULDN'T OF WON A SINGLE ROUND AGAINST EITHER BROTHER!

And if he fought Vitali, styles make fights, Vitali would of put him into a coma.


You lot on here are a joke IMO & another guy you underrate is Hopkins who has one of the best boxing brains & C.V's EVER! Easily a top 20 of all time, if not better.

Klitschko's - easily top 10 heavyweights, if not in the top 5.

the 60's and 70's overated???lol and Frazier POOR MANS tUA???WOW MAN THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE..fRAZIERS STYLE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AGAINST WLAD WAS HE COULD WEAVE HIS WAY IN PAST HIS JAB.BUT VITALI WOULD BEAT FRAZIER DOWN CAUSE HE'S AWKWARD AND HAS GOOD REFLEXES