Byrd-Klitschko II: Wlad win not a formality?

[Guest]

I'm just rewatching the Wlad-Chris Byrd fight, and it's slightly different from how I recalled.

I think the one overriding memory about it is is Byrd's wife screaming hysterically as Byrd get blasted helplessly by Wlad, and that Wlad had his number all along.

Yet it seems not to be the case. Granted, Wlad took over and gave Byrd the worst beating of his career, but for the first three quarters of the fight it was actually close.

I didn't bother to sit there scoring it, kind of wish I had done now. But I watch four or five rounds the other days, just caught 6-9 now and my general impression is that going into the ninth it was close, and there was a possibility that Byrd was actually ahead.

There are rounds where Wlad appears listless and perplexed - maybe just coasting rounds - and Byrd actually fires at him quite heavily. Even though Byrd is arguably the softest-hitting heavy in history (agree? yes/no?) he does seem to have the power to trouble Wlad.... and we know why now, don't we? (There's a question... could Byrd KO Wlad if he landed flush...?)

Doubtless some will say this is a moot point as Wlad does indeed hammer Byrd senseless in the last few rounds, but for rounds 1-9 (even the KD in the ninth seems more like an off-balance, flash knockdown than anything substantial) it was competitive. The memory cheats?


So, my point... would a rematch between a slower Byrd, albeit one more confident about his chin against a Wlad significantly less confident about his chin be a formality?

[Bozo_no no]

You need a punch to beat Wlad.

Byrd doesn't even come close to having one.

That makes it a boxing match, and Wlad is bigger, stronger, just as fast, has the reach, and is a better boxer.

Horrible match up for Byrd.

He has little to no chance.

[Run]

You need a punch to beat Wlad.

Byrd doesn't even come close to having one.

That makes it a boxing match, and Wlad is bigger, stronger, just as fast, has the reach, and is a better boxer.

Horrible match up for Byrd.

He has little to no chance.

Yeah that is a good point. You need to be unorthodox in punching angles, and have power in order to beat Wlad.

When a fighter can do that he is like an Octopus in a phone booth. If you try and outbox him it will just backfire.



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[Guest]

Okay, forget the KO, can he go the distance and win on points?

Honestly, forgetting how it turns out, if you had to judge rounds 1-8 of the first fight, what would your score be?

Mine? Haven't got a clue. As I said, I wasn't paying that much attention (it's a Byrd fight, what do you expect?) but he seemed to have the edge in rounds 7-8 at least...

[Run]

I think the one overriding memory about it is is Byrd's wife screaming hysterically as Byrd get blasted helplessly by Wlad, and that Wlad had his number all along.

Byrd would try and initiate a flurry, Wlad would back up blocking punches, and immediately return fire.

Yet it seems not to be the case. Granted, Wlad took over and gave Byrd the worst beating of his career, but for the first three quarters of the fight it was actually close.

Based on Byrd's activity level he might have been winning the first quarter of the fight.

There are rounds where Wlad appears listless and perplexed - maybe just coasting rounds - and Byrd actually fires at him quite heavily. Even though Byrd is arguably the softest-hitting heavy in history (agree? yes/no?) he does seem to have the power to trouble Wlad.... and we know why now, don't we? (There's a question... could Byrd KO Wlad if he landed flush...?)

Im still not completely sold on Wlad's change in routine that would help him go the full 12 rounds. In fact.....that was the only fight before Peter where he actually went the distance. I think he figured Byrd would not hold up to his punches.

So, my point... would a rematch between a slower Byrd, albeit one more confident about his chin against a Wlad significantly less confident about his chin be a formality?

I think Byrd would get knocked out if they rematch. Byrd is declining as a fighter in my opinion, and Wlad is only 29.



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[Guest]

Don't get me wrong, you're probably right, it's just a shock to actually watch the thing and see the difference between what happened and what I remembered happening. Byrd manages to bounce several vollies off Wlad's head in the later middle rounds.

[Guest]

Wait... is there a different angle of this or something? I'm sure I saw Byrd getting a severe beating on the Klitschko's own site, but it didn't happen.

You know what? Because he was doing the work and backing Wlad up in the last (albeit with nothing substantial, I know...) I even had to give Byrd that one, purely as a boxing round.

I wish I hadn't started this "scoring" thing now as it means I'll have to go back and score them all, but for the last four rounds I had it: 39-35 Wlad.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I'm just rewatching the Wlad-Chris Byrd fight, and it's slightly different from how I recalled.

I think the one overriding memory about it is is Byrd's wife screaming hysterically as Byrd get blasted helplessly by Wlad, and that Wlad had his number all along.

That's a strange coincedence... I watched the Wlad vs Bryd fight today. (You must have been one of the same seeds/peers at Wboxingarchieve?... LOL!...)

That was his wife that was screaming hysterically all the way through the fight? That was horrible! I thought he must have been so embarrassed throughout the fight, but then I remembered him coming in wearing a t-shirt that said "Don't need ***ellery, CHRIST is the true answer!" So I guess he's used to that sort of ****.

To me it seemed like Byrd was really scared about fighting in Germany and him and his wife felt all alone. - Before Byrd made his way to the ring she said to him, "I love you sweety, we're in this together and I will be with you all the way! You're not alone in that ring, I'll be in there with you! I'm there with you!" As they both wept and hugged.

Damn!... LOL!... I should become a story writer!... LOL!...

[Guest]

That's a strange coincedence... I watched the Wlad vs Bryd fight today. (You must have been one of the same seeds/peers at Wboxingarchieve?... LOL!...)

No, I got it from a file sharing lounge - you might remember it, Judas - it's called Fight Club.

That was his wife that was screaming hysterically all the way through the fight? That was horrible! I thought he must have been so embarrassed throughout the fight, but then I remembered him coming in wearing a t-shirt that said "Don't need ***ellery, CHRIST is the true answer!" So I guess he's used to that sort of ****.

Yeah, there's only one thing more embarrassing than that... being a member of BS and using that as your ID.

To me it seemed like Byrd was really scared about fighting in Germany and him and his wife felt all alone. - Before Byrd made his way to the ring she said to him, "I love you sweety, we're in this together and I will be with you all the way! You're not alone in that ring, I'll be in there with you! I'm there with you!" As they both wept and hugged.

I know, silly *****... I didn't see her taking a whack on the jaw, did you?



Okay, the first four rounds (why did I start this??) I had it to Wlad 39-37. The judge that had Byrd losing every single round was harsh IMO.


The end of the fight... was Wlad's ability to penetrate Byrd's defence due to Byrd's obscured vision and fatigue or had Wlad just finally got his number? And if Wlad's got Byrd's number, does he ever ring him up for a pizza?

[BLOODSHED]

You need balls to beat Wlad. And Byrd can do it if he boxes. Wlad aint a good boxer like Byrd. Corrie Sanders exposed him for what he is, hype.

You need a punch to beat Wlad.

Byrd doesn't even come close to having one.

That makes it a boxing match, and Wlad is bigger, stronger, just as fast, has the reach, and is a better boxer.

Horrible match up for Byrd.

He has little to no chance.