Why Ortiz had an advantage going into the Berto fight

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whats drugs??please elaborate,post a link,article,something to back up this post

Larry, whilst Floyd maintains he doesn't drink or do drugs, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually does both, especially the drugs part. The reason i say this is that he is at risk of addiction given his personality traits. So even if he was out partying and tried a few drugs for the hell of it it wouldn't surprise me at all if he uses.

The personality traits that allow him to push it to the absolute human limit in the way he trains are the same traits that make him susceptible to addictions. He is clearly already a ******** addict.

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The only advantage Ortiz had against Berto. Is that Ortiz is an above average fighter at best.

While Berto was a below average to just an average fighter at best.

personally disagree. Berto beats any of the 140 pounders imo, and Khan v Berto is 50-50 at 147.

In my view both fighters (Ortiz and Berto) are underrated here in bscene.

That said Ortiz is going to find it very tough going against Floyd.....but that's not a surprise.

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personally disagree. Berto beats any of the 140 pounders imo, and Khan v Berto is 50-50 at 147.

In my view both fighters (Ortiz and Berto) are underrated here in bscene.

That said Ortiz is going to find it very tough going against Floyd.....but that's not a surprise.

We agree to disagree. I never saw anything special in Berto. Won his title against a Mexican cop who got fired for taking the damn fight, went life and death against Collozo and defended his title half the time against 2nd/3rd tier JWW's.

I think both Bradley and Khan beat him and beat Ortiz by that matter. I think Jones could dent Berto chin and be very competitive against Ortiz perhaps beating him as well.

They are/were highly rank. Not because of their talent or resume. But, because how whack the WW division is.

[King Ghidorah]

Whos fault is that? Anyhow.. I tried to tell people Ortiz would win and for the obvious reason - the weighin photos. Berto had COTTON MOUTH. A lot of guys here don't box or never have so have no idea what that indicates. But his fatigue wasn't a mystery. Dude either trained too hard or barely trained at all and tried to shed a lot of weight at the last second. Either way, it's a bad sign and its him and his teams fault. They lost before the fight started. Doubt he'd ever beat a guy like ortiz anyway without knocking him out. Berto doesn't like it in close and doesnt like being tested.

If what youre saying is true, it definiteily adds up for why he appeared the way he did at teh weigh in (which no one seemed to notice or care about). But the dude was dry and cotton mouthed out this world.




Ortiz looks fresh, of course. Because he KILLED himself to make 140. The sudden burst in energy for his performance was clearly him being at a healthy weight for once.

THANK YOU!.... I'm tired of all these excuses....

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Larry, whilst Floyd maintains he doesn't drink or do drugs, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually does both, especially the drugs part. The reason i say this is that he is at risk of addiction given his personality traits. So even if he was out partying and tried a few drugs for the hell of it it wouldn't surprise me at all if he uses.

The personality traits that allow him to push it to the absolute human limit in the way he trains are the same traits that make him susceptible to addictions. He is clearly already a ******** addict.

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