Comments Thread For: Atlas: Pacquiao Has a Tougher Fight Than Mayweather

[edgarg]

Man Jmm will get the asswhooping of a lifetime when it comes to Pacquiao. Pacquiai is NOT the same fighter, he's bigger, faster, stronger.

If Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Delahoya, Clottey couldn't take Pacquiaos new power, then Marquez is surely to get knocked unconscious.

I don't think that MannyP really has "new" power. I think that the whole situation all along for years now is that Manny P is a guy with a welterweight frame who was struggling to keep down his weight to feather and lightweight, but finally allowed himself to become "normal"..
Being at the lighter weights would be bound to have an effect on his power, although he still packed a good KO wallop at lower weights. Now at his natural weight, when he throws, it has everything behind it. So he can KO seasoned guys much bigger and much heavier after rehydration.

[rasdun]

Usually teddy atlas has some good humor ,but lately he has been way-off especially when predicting fights--there is no way marquez is a more dangerous let alone dificult fight than victor ortiz, how can anyone say that a near 40 year old shot fighter is more difficult than a young lion i ortiz--come on atlas be serious.

first off, Atlas was sying Marquez would be more difficult, not more dangerous. That is not the same thing. Just bc Marquez is more difficult for Pac, doesn't mean he's the more dangerous fighter. Atlas was saying, stylistically that Marquez will always give Pac problems, which alot of knowledgable boxing insuders believe.

Second, I always find it funny how people are so quick to say a fighter is "shot" Marquez' only uncontroversial loss over the past 10 yrs was to Mayweather. Who has obviously beaten everyone he's fought.
Can you find things that haven't went perfectly for Marquez- of course. But when he fuoght Katsidis, Katsidis was the #1 ranked ring contender. and his wins over Diaz and Casamayor were entertaining. My point is that, maybe Marquez isn't as great as he was 3-4 yrs ago. But he is far from "shot" and would probably beat most 135-140 lbers. Other than Khan and maybe Bradley, he'd beat any 140 lber; and only Guererro and Rios could challenge him at 135. If that's shot, then yeah, Marquez is shot

[edgarg]

Dont be foolish about the Oscar/Pac fight. Oscar was trying to make Pac a big star. Trust me he had no intentions of winning. There is a reason Golden Boy gets a peice of all of Manny's fights. A big name on the downside of his career fights a fighter his company is trying to sign at a weight he hasnt fought at in years. Please people, dont be ******.

This is one of the sillier posts I've seen on BoxingScene, and, believe me, I've seen a lot.

[WESS]

i'm glad you didn't blame Pac for dela hoya not being 100%. some folks actually hate pac so much that they continuously credit Pac of draining dela hoya when in truth it was dela hoya who was dictating the terms of the fight.

Nobody "blames" Pac, most people just state that the De La Hoya vs Mayweather was in fact BETTER than the De La Hoya vs Pac.

Just like the UNDEFEATED Hatton vs Mayweather was BETTER than the Hatton vs Pac OR the #1 WW Champion in Mosley vs Mayweather was BETTER than the Mosley vs Pac.

Its clear that Hoya, Hatton and Mosley where coming off the WORST performances of there careers when they fought Pac. Just like Clottey, Cotto and Margarito.

At least JMM is a Champion right? First real current "Champion" that Pac has faced in YEARS... It's no wonder that Pac wants this LW "CURRENT" Champion to fight at WW where he has in fact NEVER won a fight or even looked good in that division.

[WESS]

That's a "could be", but to me it's because it's at a weight that MannyP has shown he is a powerhouse, and as strong as a bull.

In the Marquez=Mayweather fight, Marquez was obviously fighting at an artificial weight and carrying a lot of surplus just so as not to be outweighed too much, since it was NOT his proper division. But this time, he has taken the time to build himself up scientifically, so that he will be his proper division. {I wonder will he try to go back down again to 135 by taking off solid muscle, or retire ?}. Which makes the fight all the more interesting, and should make it tougher for Pacquiao. But MannyP is a legit Welterweight, and this will be Marquez'
1st real welterweight fight. So MannyP. has to have the advantage. I don't count the Mayweather thing.

STFU, JMM is a LW Champion you ****ing ******..... there is a reason Pac didnt want to fight him at LW or even JWW.... Pac hasnt fought ANY CURRENT Champion in years until now... a LW Champion.

"but this time" lol stfu. This is an even OLDER LW JMM fighting in the VERY same divsion that he did vs Mayweather. Are you that ****ing ******? Do you guy REALLY think Mayweather is that bad ass that he walks all over JMM but JMM will give Pac problems at WW? You "*****".

This is a shyt fight and if Pac even has the slightest of problems it wont be good for him. You *****'s give Floyd too much credit in the JMM fight especially if you think this is a legit fight for Pac!

[edgarg]

A fact hater refuse to accept, and it would be worse, because at lw Mayweather had blinding speed and excellent footwork/footspeed.

Also, Mayweather never used his size/power to overwelm Marquez, he just used his jab and control of range to outboxed the **** out of him.

I don't think that at lt. weight Mayweather had "blazing speed". I think he had smooth, unhurried, slick, well timed speed, but for "blazing speed" give me either Mosley or Camacho.

[De la hoya 801]

True..... IF THE FIGHT WAS AT 135 paquiao scared to see Marquez at light weight

[edgarg]

STFU, JMM is a LW Champion you ****ing ******..... there is a reason Pac didnt want to fight him at LW or even JWW.... Pac hasnt fought ANY CURRENT Champion in years until now... a LW Champion.

"but this time" lol stfu. This is an even OLDER LW JMM fighting in the VERY same divsion that he did vs Mayweather. Are you that ****ing ******? Do you guy REALLY think Mayweather is that bad ass that he walks all over JMM but JMM will give Pac problems at WW? You "*****".

This is a shyt fight and if Pac even has the slightest of problems it wont be good for him. You *****'s give Floyd too much credit in the JMM fight especially if you think this is a legit fight for Pac!

What did I do to deserve THIS diatribe...??? I think you've lost your"marbles". And I wish you could control your ****** tongue when posting to me. There was nothing in my post which caused such an outburst. Are you that ignorant of the English language that you have to resort to vile obscenities to try to get your otherwise incoherent thought across. There's a little thing called "discussion" and it used to be conducted in calm, unheated manner...with manners. You wouldn't know about that.

I don't know why the hell you even attacked me, especially over something of as little importance as whatever the blazes you're talking about. Which perhaps you don't know yourself.

I've noticed that you have been becoming less and less coherent as your posts progress.

Why not just stop whilst you're still ahead, before the little men in the white suits pay you a visit. In other words, just bugger off until you can control yourself.

[edgarg]

STFU, JMM is a LW Champion you ****ing ******..... there is a reason Pac didnt want to fight him at LW or even JWW.... Pac hasnt fought ANY CURRENT Champion in years until now... a LW Champion.

"but this time" lol stfu. This is an even OLDER LW JMM fighting in the VERY same divsion that he did vs Mayweather. Are you that ****ing ******? Do you guy REALLY think Mayweather is that bad ass that he walks all over JMM but JMM will give Pac problems at WW? You "*****".

This is a shyt fight and if Pac even has the slightest of problems it wont be good for him. You *****'s give Floyd too much credit in the JMM fight especially if you think this is a legit fight for Pac!

It's astonishing to me just how much you actually KNOW about everything which goes on with MannyP. You actually know everything about him that nobody else does. If you have a huge pair of "jug-handle"ears, as I can easily see you with, hunched behind your computer, you would then be able to hear things BEFORE they're even spoken.

You could even supply your own air-conditioning just by shaking your head.

I think you're a bit nuts. Certainly not the "full shilling". I see you even regard me as a Mayweather supporter. A MAYWEATHER SUPPORTER??? The only support I'm interested in is that my belt keeps supporting my pants. Ignoramus!

[old cat]

Ortiz is still a mystery - its a question of which Ortiz shows up. He is on a high after beating Berto and being overly confident and aggressive will be his downfall against Money.

I could not disagree more. Floyd will adjust. Victor can not go up as many levels Floyd can. In my mind, he has try and take him out inside six or seven. Mayweather wont lose the last half of this fight, he will take away all the young mans tools.