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  • Walt Liquor
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    #151
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
    You again Malt Liquor?

    I keep it as simple as possible, not cause I have too, but because I want too. Key, want too.

    You've been drinking too much Malt Liquor, but how's this for starters Mr. Ettiquette:


    I’m no PED expert, nor do I have the time to become one within the next few days. But, what I do know is boxing. I’ve studied the sport and it’s fighters for years. Originally I thought Pac would soundly defeat Mayweather. But after evaluating each fighters tendencies and putting the PED question marks aside, here’s the facts that I do know:

    When people compare Marquez to Mayweather, they’re referring to how similar their styles are. It’s a FACT, that Marquez gave Pac problems in two fights. It’s a fact that Mayweather is a counter-puncher like Marquez, but Mayweather has better defense (in fact the best defense in boxing..Fact), faster, bigger/stronger, and most importantly he’s a smarter version of Marquez. THESE ARE FACTS.

    Let’s talk more facts. How many times did Cotto and Hatton bum rush Pac? I’m sure all the Pac fans watched both fights numerous times. Both of Cotto’s knockdowns came when Cotto lost his composure and was in the process of bum rushing Pac. Hatton fought a similar pressurized style. He too was stopped. When Pac knocked Marquez down in the 1st and 2nd fights, it was during an exchange. Now, let me ask you this. How many times did Clottey bum rush Pac? How many times was Clottey hurt or knocked down? If you answered none then you’re right. Pac landed 20% of his 1200 punches against Clottey, which is right around the 21% opponent punch land ratio for Clottey. Mayweather’s is 16%

    The point that I’m making is fighters that lose their discipline and carelessly apply pressure (i.e Cotto, Morales II & III, Hatton) get knocked out. In contrast if anyone has ever seen a Mayweather fight, they will know that one of Mayweather’s best characteristics are being WELL DISCIPLINED and applying sound defense.


    It's a bit off topic, but you get the point. At least, I hope you do.
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    • BoxingGenius27
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      #152
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
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      I see you're back for more butt whoopin?

      You ask for something not simple minded and I give it to you and that's all you can say is ".....................................".

      Now you see why I respond to you like a 1st grader to begin with.

      You're embarrasing yourself. Log off and take a nap.

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      • Walt Liquor
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        #153
        Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
        I see you're back for more butt whoopin?

        You ask for something not simple minded and I give it to you and that's all you can say is ".....................................".

        Now you see why I respond to you like a 1st grader to begin with.

        You're embarrasing yourself. Log off and take a nap.
        so you took it to the age old breakdown of the manny-floyd fight....ho hum.

        and you said nothing that hasn't been said over 1,750,000.645 times on nsb.

        wow, you really impressed everyone while leaving so many holes in your analysis it looks like a lesbian orgy.

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #154
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor
          so you took it to the age old breakdown of the manny-floyd fight....ho hum.

          and you said nothing that hasn't been said over 1,750,000.645 times on nsb.

          wow, you really impressed everyone while leaving so many holes in your analysis it looks like a lesbian orgy.
          Ok Malt liquor, just give up. You're getting owned.

          Why should I give an analysis to back up my facts against a 1st grader with no competence.

          The first thing you learn when writing, is "know your audience". Why write college paper material for 1st graders like yourself?

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          • BoxingGenius27
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            #155
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            so you took it to the age old breakdown of the manny-floyd fight....ho hum.

            and you said nothing that hasn't been said over 1,750,000.645 times on nsb.

            wow, you really impressed everyone while leaving so many holes in your analysis it looks like a lesbian orgy.
            For the 2nd time, you're imagining things.

            This is something you said, not me. Matter of fact, show me where I said this. I'll wait....

            Bet I can show you before you show me? How much?

            Forget Mayweather, I'm ruining you.
            Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 08-25-2011, 01:08 PM.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #156
              this has been said over 1,750,000 times on NSB, yet you act like it was such an intelligent post. it's your own words (or everyone else's you stole it from). so how is it that I'm imagining things? it's a DIRECT QUOTE FROM YOU

              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              You again Malt Liquor?

              I keep it as simple as possible, not cause I have too, but because I want too. Key, want too.

              You've been drinking too much Malt Liquor, but how's this for starters Mr. Ettiquette:


              I’m no PED expert, nor do I have the time to become one within the next few days. But, what I do know is boxing. I’ve studied the sport and it’s fighters for years. Originally I thought Pac would soundly defeat Mayweather. But after evaluating each fighters tendencies and putting the PED question marks aside, here’s the facts that I do know:

              When people compare Marquez to Mayweather, they’re referring to how similar their styles are. It’s a FACT, that Marquez gave Pac problems in two fights. It’s a fact that Mayweather is a counter-puncher like Marquez, but Mayweather has better defense (in fact the best defense in boxing..Fact), faster, bigger/stronger, and most importantly he’s a smarter version of Marquez. THESE ARE FACTS.

              Let’s talk more facts. How many times did Cotto and Hatton bum rush Pac? I’m sure all the Pac fans watched both fights numerous times. Both of Cotto’s knockdowns came when Cotto lost his composure and was in the process of bum rushing Pac. Hatton fought a similar pressurized style. He too was stopped. When Pac knocked Marquez down in the 1st and 2nd fights, it was during an exchange. Now, let me ask you this. How many times did Clottey bum rush Pac? How many times was Clottey hurt or knocked down? If you answered none then you’re right. Pac landed 20% of his 1200 punches against Clottey, which is right around the 21% opponent punch land ratio for Clottey. Mayweather’s is 16%

              The point that I’m making is fighters that lose their discipline and carelessly apply pressure (i.e Cotto, Morales II & III, Hatton) get knocked out. In contrast if anyone has ever seen a Mayweather fight, they will know that one of Mayweather’s best characteristics are being WELL DISCIPLINED and applying sound defense.


              It's a bit off topic, but you get the point. At least, I hope you do.

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #157
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                this has been said over 1,750,000 times on NSB, yet you act like it was such an intelligent post. it's your own words (or everyone else's you stole it from). so how is it that I'm imagining things? it's a DIRECT QUOTE FROM YOU
                I appreciate the compliment.The fact that you think I stole my material from someone is a great compliment. I accept your compliment.

                Let's see what else you can say to make yourself look even ******er. I'll wait....

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                • Walt Liquor
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                  I appreciate the compliment.The fact that you think I stole my material from someone is a great compliment. I accept your compliment.

                  Let's see what else you can say to make yourself look even ******er. I'll wait....
                  well, you're just saying that I look ******, when in actuality, you tried to make your dumb posts (like the OP and the worst argument in years by posting records of guys after they fought floyd and an allegedly valid argument) not appear dumb by doing a writeup on the floyd manny fight.
                  which has nothing to do with this thread and you turned out a horrible writeup that has all kinds of holes in it and says nothing that hasn't been said thousands of times before on this site in the last 2 years, so I'll go with you being the one who looks ******.

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                  • BoxingGenius27
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                    well, you're just saying that I look ******, when in actuality, you tried to make your dumb posts (like the OP and the worst argument in years by posting records of guys after they fought floyd and an allegedly valid argument) not appear dumb by doing a writeup on the floyd manny fight.
                    which has nothing to do with this thread and you turned out a horrible writeup that has all kinds of holes in it and says nothing that hasn't been said thousands of times before on this site in the last 2 years, so I'll go with you being the one who looks ******.
                    See, I knew you wouldn't understand that post.

                    You're just rambling right now. You're not even being coherent. Put some periods in those run on sentences. I can't respond to someone I don't even understand.

                    Let's hear it? I'll wait.

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                    • deejd
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      People keep saying Hatton, but Hatton looked fine down at 140. He looked no different than before he fought Mayweather. Corrales and Castillo were the same. Baldomir and Judah were the same.
                      You don't really believe that, Bo, come on... Lazcano rearranged Hatton's face and buckled him a few times in their fight (right after Mayweather)... then Hatton decides to start training with Sr. for the Malignaggi fight in which he still didn't look like the same ferocious Ricky Hatton pre-Mayweather. The guy was mocking Mayweather's style on 24/7 and then went out and hired the guy who raised him with that technique... Hatton was never the same after Mayweather, point blank.

                      I never stated Castillo or Corrales were different. Again, I made the exception Judah in an earlier post.

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