Comments Thread For: David Haye Will Likely Retire From Boxing, Says Froch

[WladIsTheChamp]

I didn't write anything because the lack of respect for a 2 weight world champ on this thread is di****able. Have you ever heard of winning with grace? I guess not. David Haye is a very good fighter, as a fan of Wlad you should acknowledge that he beat a very good fighter, it only reflects better on Wlad's resume anyway. As I am writing this post I honestly don't know why I am wasting my time with you.

Wladimir did not exactly come out of that fight with huge plaudits, he barely landed a worth while punch. He couldn't once hurt a fighter who is known to have a weak chin, and I don't want to hear about Haye being defensive because he is always defensive and a counter puncher. Haye coudn't deal with the speed of Wlad's footwork, spacing, and timing...but Wlad again fought too defensive and too safe. Wlad is a winner...I will give him that, he has addressed his weaknesses and become a world class heavyweight, but he has quite a bit to do if he wants to be remembered as one of the atg's, and the Haye performance would not have added much in that respect.

LOL!!! GTFO!!! Are you serious? Or are you high as shiat like Fatton and Calslappy?

First, "winning with grace"? You must be ****ting me. Have you been under a rock for the past 3 years? Have you seen what Gayevid has done? I am not going to list it all but he obviously acted like the biggest twat, ****, and prima donna with the biggest mouth, talking so much shiat about the Klitschkos. Yeah, yeah, it was to sell the fight you probably gonna say, well either way, you talk big, you have to back it up, or eat crow.

If you don't want the criticism then conduct yourself accordingly. It wasn't that he lost, everyone looses against the Klitschkos, it was his behaviour before, during, and after the fight. He acted like a twat before the fight, like a scared coward biatch during the fight (flopping to the ground like a wet sloppy vagina and looked for the ref's help every time Wlad threw a punch), but then he blamed his little PINKY toe from THREE WEEKS prior!!!!

Gayevid = Brit Coward Vagina, plain and simple, live with it, cause that is what he will be remembered, not that he was the 2 weight champ

[Ravens Fan]

LOL!!! GTFO!!! Are you serious? Or are you high as shiat like Fatton and Calslappy?

First, "winning with grace"? You must be ****ting me. Have you been under a rock for the past 3 years? Have you seen what Gayevid has done? I am not going to list it all but he obviously acted like the biggest twat, ****, and prima donna with the biggest mouth, talking so much shiat about the Klitschkos. Yeah, yeah, it was to sell the fight you probably gonna say, well either way, you talk big, you have to back it up, or eat crow.

If you don't want the criticism then conduct yourself accordingly. It wasn't that he lost, everyone looses against the Klitschkos, it was his behaviour before, during, and after the fight. He acted like a twat before the fight, like a scared coward biatch during the fight (flopping to the ground like a wet sloppy vagina and looked for the ref's help every time Wlad threw a punch), but then he blamed his little PINKY toe from THREE WEEKS prior!!!!

Gayevid = Brit Coward Vagina, plain and simple, live with it, cause that is what he will be remembered, not that he was the 2 weight champ

I may not of chosen the sames words. But, I have to say I could not have said it better myself.

[LeadUppercut]

i don't have nothing against Haye but with the heavyweight division being at the weakest ever, the ex cruiserweight could still beat everybody but the top two.

That is probably correct, unfortunately.

[LeadUppercut]

I believe that most of the Ring's top ten are better boxers than Haye.

Other than Vit/Wlad, who could beat Haye ?

I would love to see Haye/Adamek.

I also have a very hard time rating Haye very high when his best career win over a in his prime fighter is Enzo Macc.

No, his best win is Valuev for the WBA strap.

Simply put I believe that Haye is and always was overrated even as a cruiserweight. But, if his mouth alone could win him fights he would be an all time great and should be in the Hall of Fame someday.

Wladimir Klitschko must be truly awful then.

Because, despite holding a huge physical advantage over a guy who you classify as nothing but an over-rated blown-up cruiser, Wlad failed to dominate, subdue, or even hurt David Haye, he never had him in trouble once.

I am not completely disagreeing with you, but I would definitely move my sliding scale back toward the middle-ground, thats all.

[LeadUppercut]

Based on what? What are you making that assumption off? He never faced young top HWs other than Wlad and you saw how that turned out. I bet Chagaev, Povetkin, Boytsov, Chambes all beat him.

That is a HUGE call.

I would not bet a cent on the fragile " not-quite-ready-yet " Povetkin.

You said..... " What are you making that assumption off? "

So, speaking of " assumptions " ..... what " tests " have Povetkin and Boystov ever passed with flying colors ?

[Sadistic]

lol at this delusional bitter butthurt Haye nuthugger/Wlad hater LeadUppercut.

This guy was always defending Haye and talking shit about Wlad before the fight and he's still going out of his way to try to bash and discredit Wlad's dominant win over Haye.

1. Haye is 6'3" and has longer arms than Wlad. He's about the same size as a young "Big" George Foreman. He's much bigger than Ali, Holyfield, Tyson, Louis, Frazier, etc.

2. HBO, Sky Sports, Ukrainian TV, Russian TV, German TV, Polish TV, all 3 judges, every news and boxing writer, etc. all said Wlad DOMINATED Haye.

[Sadistic]

Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye

THE FACTS

Haye was scared shitless. He was afraid to engage with Wlad. He was in survival mode the entire fight. He was running like a scared girl from Wlad the whole fight and was flopping like a coward.

Wlad dominated the fight.

Wlad won every round.

Wlad was the aggressor from start to finish. He was the pressure fighter and was coming forward the entire fight.

Wlad boxed beautifully.

Wlad made Haye look like an amatuer.

Wlad threw twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad landed twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad outlanded Haye in every round.

Wlad hurt Haye several times and made him spend the entire fight in survival mode running for his life and flopping like a coward.

Haye was totally outclassed, schooled, beaten up, exposed, dominated and humiliated by Wlad.

I scored it a shutout 119-107

Another masterful dominant win for Wlad.

[Sadistic]

Another Brit dominated and retired by the Klitschkos.

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement.

Wlad dominated Haye and Vitali scared him into retirement.

[Ravens Fan]

Other than Vit/Wlad, who could beat Haye ?
I would love to see Haye/Adamek.

No, his best win is Valuev for the WBA strap.

Wladimir Klitschko must be truly awful then.

Because, despite holding a huge physical advantage over a guy who you classify as nothing but an over-rated blown-up cruiser, Wlad failed to dominate, subdue, or even hurt David Haye, he never had him in trouble once.

I am not completely disagreeing with you, but I would definitely move my sliding scale back toward the middle-ground, thats all.

I don't now how to break down each quote like you do but here goes. You must not have read what I wrote. Simply because if Valuev was in his prime when Haye fought him why has he not fought since that fight almost two years ago? And that is not even taking into account the fact that Vlauev really was not that good to begin with.

I also find it rather strange that Valuev was looked upon as little more than a carnival side show act with an alphabet strap. Than somehow he became a legitimate champion when Haye fought him. That is fought him in one of the worst god awful fights that I have ever had the displeasure to watch.

With that said, I honestly don't think that Haye, or for that matter, even Holyfield did enough to beat the Beast. And Holyfield even looked better doing what he did while Haye was faking injuries, broken hand, to try cover his a$$ in that forgettable stink fest of a fight. So, if that was Haye's best win he really should not brag about it.

As far as Wlad not being able to hurt Haye. Well, all I can say to that is that regardless of how big or even how good a fighter is it is kind hard to hurt someone while they are running track. Simply put, everyone knows that Wlad is safety first and will only go for the knock out if it opens up to him, don't believe me see the Ibragimov fight. And I was hoping against odds but I knew that was exactly what was going to happen. Because, Haye does not have the boxing skills to get past Wlad's jab. Haye also leads with power punches that he wings from way out. And that may work against the washed up Mormeck's and Enzo Macc's of the world but it ain't going to work against most world class heavyweights. Because, in reality it didn't work against Valuev or even Ruiz.

And last but not least who could beat Haye? I really don't care because I believe that Haye will never fight another legitimate world class heavyweight who's name is not Wlad or Vitali. And I honestly hope that Vitali blows him off. Because Haye has already received way more than he deserves and I hope he just retires and goes away quietly into the shadows.

[LeadUppercut]

lol at this delusional bitter butthurt Haye nuthugger/Wlad hater LeadUppercut.

This guy was always defending Haye and talking shit about Wlad before the fight and he's still going out of his way to try to bash and discredit Wlad's dominant win over Haye.

1. Haye is 6'3" and has longer arms than Wlad. He's about the same size as a young "Big" George Foreman. He's much bigger than Ali, Holyfield, Tyson, Louis, Frazier, etc.

2. HBO, Sky Sports, Ukrainian TV, Russian TV, German TV, Polish TV, all 3 judges, every news and boxing writer, etc. all said Wlad DOMINATED Haye.

*** off you ***** ****.

Go *** yourself ya clown.

Show me one post EVER, where I " talked **** " about Wlad.

You dopey nut-hugging kid.

And I never defended Haye, except from the childish " coward " calling.

From ***go7s like you.

e.g. I will bet my life that I can find a post, made by you, which categorically states that "David Haye will NEVER get in the ring with a Klitschko".

Correct ?

Well I guess that makes me right and you wrong, you nut-hugging ***wit.

You wouldnt know ****, so STFU idiot.

All I have ever stated about Haye is that the " coward " calling was absurd, and that he will OBVIOUSLY take that huge payday.

I challenge you to prove me wrong you bigmouth arsehole.

Find a post where I.....
* " talked **** " about Wlad
* Picked him to beat either Wlad or Vit
* Defended him from ANYTHING other than the childish " coward " callers.

Ya dopey kid.