Did Bernard Finally Go "Over-The-Hill" With The Hopkins-Pascal Saga?

[Mr Randy Watson]

I wanted B-hop to retire after pascal II...I don't wanna see him go out on his back

[BoxingGenius27]

If Dawson does KO Hopkins, Dawson won't get credit for it.

People will say Hop was over the hill and Hop would've killed Dawson in his prime.

I don't know why any young fighter takes fights with Hopkins. If they lose, they're added to Hopkins skull collection. But if they win, Hopkins has the old man excuse.

Sorry if I come across as a hater, I've just never been a Hopkins fan. I'm not sure if it's his headbutts, low blows or excessive holding. The only time I rooted for him was against Trinidad and Tarver.

[ИATAS]

If Dawson does KO Hopkins, Dawson won't get credit for it.

People will say Hop was over the hill and Hop would've killed Dawson in his prime.

I don't know why any young fighter takes fights with Hopkins. If they lose, they're added to Hopkins skull collection. But if they win, Hopkins has the old man excuse.

Sorry if I come across as a hater, I've just never been a Hopkins fan. I'm not sure if it's his headbutts, low blows or excessive holding. The only time I rooted for him was against Trinidad and Tarver.

dawson gets his belts if he wins, that's what he's after plus a good payday. anyone who beats a 45+ year old obviously it's going in the history books as beating someone who's past their prime, although with hopkins beating pascal it will still look good for dawson even if he doesn't get 100% credit.

[cupocity303]

If Dawson does KO Hopkins, Dawson won't get credit for it.

People will say Hop was over the hill and Hop would've killed Dawson in his prime.

I don't know why any young fighter takes fights with Hopkins.

Hmm, because Hopkins has the Ring Light-Heavyweight & WBC Title?

Dawson has another decade to add on to his resume, Hopkins isn't supposed to be his career defining fight now is it?

[BoxingGenius27]

Hmm, because Hopkins has the Ring Light-Heavyweight & WBC Title?

Dawson has another decade to add on to his resume, Hopkins isn't supposed to be his career defining fight now is it?

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. If you want, elaborate...

But I will say this. Just like ODLH didn't get credit for stopping Chavez and Trinidad didn't get credit of beating Whitaker, neither will Dawson.

[cupocity303]

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. If you want, elaborate...

But I will say this. Just like ODLH didn't get credit for stopping Chavez and Trinidad didn't get credit of beating Whitaker, neither will Dawson.

Elaborate on what? The fact that he isn't just facing Hopkins because he is Hopkins the name, but because of what B-Hop has, which is the Real Light-Heavyweight Title. And becoming the Real Light-Heavyweight World Champion = being the # 1 guy in the Division. Hence a good reason for Dawson to face him regardless whether he is given credit or not.

Or elaborate on why this isn't his last fight or his career defining fight, since he has many more years to go, and can add on to his resume with many more title defenses, once he has beaten Hopkins for the Light-Heavyweight Title.






* Words in blue represent Factual statements

* words in red unlikely of happening

[BoxingGenius27]

Elaborate on what? The fact that he isn't just facing Hopkins because he is Hopkins the name, but because of what B-Hop has, which is the Real Light-Heavyweight Title. And becoming the Real Light-Heavyweight World Champion = being the # 1 guy in the Division. Hence a good reason for Dawson to face him regardless whether he is given credit or not.

Or elaborate on why this isn't his last fight or his career defining fight, since he has many more years to go, and can add on to his resume with many more title defenses, once he has beaten Hopkin for the Light-Heavyweight Title.






* Words in blue represent Factual statements

* words in red unlikely of happening

True Hopkins does have the title, but that hasn't stopped spectators from discrediting fighters in the past.

Regarding what's in bold, I would take legacy over belts any day. You can't take belts to the grave with you, but you're name will live thousands of years after your death.

IMO, Dawson would take credit from historians in the history books over some belt that will come and go.

[cupocity303]

IMO, Dawson would take credit from historians in the history books over some belt that will come and go.

Dawson isn't bright enough to think about legacy and historians. I'm pretty sure he is the type who just started out for money and if you asked him about other fighters/fights from the past, he couldn't tell you a thing.

Like I said, it's just one fight, it's not career defining. One fight to get him the belt, and get the ball rolling. He can do that, or he can go after Tavoris Cloud or some other WBO/WBA Title holder that nobody ever heard of.

[Boxingwizard]

Dawson isn't bright enough to think about legacy and historians. I'm pretty sure he is the type who just started out for money and if you asked him about other fighters/fights from the past, he couldn't tell you a thing.

Like I said, it's just one fight, it's not career defining. One fight to get him the belt, and get the ball rolling. He can do that, or he can go after Tavoris Cloud or some other WBO/WBA Title holder that nobody ever heard of.

Dawson has been boxing since the age of 5, he is a very skilled boxer, he wouldn't be this good if he knew nothing about the sport or if he wasn't dedicated.

[PD21]

The Pascal fight showed Hopkins has a great chin when a power puncher lands flush. I wouldnt say he showed signs of being over the hill.

Dawson is a text book boxer and will be alot easier to read his shots and see them coming. Pascal is wild and for four rounds he is dangerous with punches coming in bunches with speed and power from all angles. Hopkins was bound to be tagged early but after that, it was a one sided fight. Pascal aleways starts like a train and finishes like a snail but Dawson will be steady all the way and I wouldnt be surprised if this is another landslide win for Hopkins. Dawsons style is made for him.