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  • #31
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
    Most people seem to think that Hearns would beat everyone but Hopkins. Makes you wonder what might be said of Leonard versus the same guys. That would be a topic for another thread....
    I think Leonard would and given that the Hopkins fight was at a catchweight of 158 and Hopkins actually came in at 156, I'd give Ray a very good chance in that one as well. I wouldn't use the 3 year inactive version that fought Hagler, I'd use the Ray from the Hearns I or Finch fight, just give him a little extra time to add some muscle.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
      People believe the "Hearns had a glass chin" stuff without ever looking at just who stopped him.
      I knew this site had some ****ed up people on it but damn I swear I didn't know it had gotten this bad.

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      • #33
        People need to not rate Hearns as an invincible fighter when he clearly was not, against top level guys he is likely to have issues.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
          People need to not rate Hearns as an invincible fighter when he clearly was not, against top level guys he is likely to have issues.
          I am not saying Hearns is close to invincible but Hearns would beat the brakes off Shane Mosley and I have no doubts about it. I said in my original post Hearns toughest fight out of those guys is B-Hop. I say
          B-Hop cause he could get inside Hearns and smother his punches. B-Hop is more than likely stronger than Hearns as well.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by tredh View Post
            I am not saying Hearns is close to invincible but Hearns would beat the brakes off Shane Mosley and I have no doubts about it. I said in my original post Hearns toughest fight out of those guys is B-Hop. I say
            B-Hop cause he could get inside Hearns and smother his punches. B-Hop is more than likely stronger than Hearns as well.
            I certainly would not pick Mosley to beat him.

            I said Tito, B-Hop and Floyd could all give him issues, B-Hop being the obvious choice if I had to pick one.


            People forget Hearns fell short in most of his big fights, those guys would all be huge fights so it stands to reason they would not be easy for him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              I certainly would not pick Mosley to beat him.

              I said Tito, B-Hop and Floyd could all give him issues, B-Hop being the obvious choice if I had to pick one.


              People forget Hearns fell short in most of his big fights, those guys would all be huge fights so it stands to reason they would not be easy for him.
              IMO Tito gets KO'ed we all know Tito usually goes down in fights early. If Hearns lands one of those rights hands like the one that KOed Duran I don't see Tito getting up. If De la Hoya can easily outbox Tito, Hearns can for sure do it and he has more power and better punch variety

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                People need to not rate Hearns as an invincible fighter when he clearly was not, against top level guys he is likely to have issues.
                How many big fights did Hearns lose at WW and JMW? Would he have won that fight (against a prime top 30 ATG, no less) if it were a 12 rounder? All of the fights we're talking about, save Hopkins, were at those two weights.

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                • #38
                  I can't see him losing to any of those guys, maybe just to Hopkins, which imo is a 50/50 fight.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                    How many big fights did Hearns lose at WW and JMW? Would he have won that fight (against a prime top 30 ATG, no less) if it were a 12 rounder? All of the fights we're talking about, save Hopkins, were at those two weights.
                    He lost his biggest fight at 147 Cuevas is his biggest win how does he compare to Tito or Floyd. The thing is he didn't win that fight you can't change that, you don't know how the fight changes because it would be 12 instead of 15 completely different scenario.

                    At 154 who is his best win what was his biggest fight, Duran how does he compare.

                    At 160 he lost his biggest fight, then he started dropping upsets to guys like Barkley.

                    I know all about Hearns~ Motor City Cobra for life but he is beatable.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tredh View Post
                      IMO Tito gets KO'ed we all know Tito usually goes down in fights early. If Hearns lands one of those rights hands like the one that KOed Duran I don't see Tito getting up. If De la Hoya can easily outbox Tito, Hearns can for sure do it and he has more power and better punch variety
                      Tito would go down early, but he gets up. It would be a race after that to see who finished off who.

                      Oscar is much different from Hearns, from the outside Hearns kills him but once he gets inside the arc of Hearns power Tito has an advantage.

                      That isn't an easy fight to call.

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