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  • Ray*
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    #81
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    Look it was a WW fight. It is so when the weight for the fight is between 140 and 147. That doesn't mean that it wasn't a catchweight fight though. A catchweight fight with a weight limit of 144 is still a WW-fight.

    So this was a catchweightweight fight in which Floyd could not or would not make the contracted limit so he paid the penalty likely stipulated in the contract: 300K per lb over the limit.

    Geddit?


    I agree with you, Mayweather weighed 146 at the weight in and paid 600K as compensation, which tells me that they had a catchweight agreement for 144, if it was WW fight without any catchweight then I don't think Mayweather would be paying any money to JMM.

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    • Gino Ros
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      #82
      Originally posted by Ray*
      I agree with you, Mayweather weighed 146 at the weight in and paid 600K as compensation, which tells me that they had a catchweight agreement for 144, if it was WW fight without any catchweight then I don't think Mayweather would be paying any money to JMM.
      I agree that 144 was on the contract, and I said so. Clearly.

      But Floyd also clearly said that he wasn't going to make that, and it is clear that FMJ never intended to make that weight.

      When you're making $20 mil plus, the $600K isn't a draconian penalty.

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #83
        Originally posted by Gino Ros
        I agree that 144 was on the contract, and I said so. Clearly.

        But Floyd also clearly said that he wasn't going to make that, and it is clear that FMJ never intended to make that weight.

        When you're making $20 mil plus, the $600K isn't a draconian penalty.
        Yeah. Floyd signed a contract, but he never intended to honour it.

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        • Gino Ros
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          #84
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          Yeah. Floyd signed a contract, but he never intended to honour it.
          You are missing the point.

          Floyd DID honour the contract. Was an overweight penalty a part of the contract? Yes.

          Floyd never intended upon making 144. This wasn't a championship fight.

          There are FREQUENTLY options in contracts. Floyd exercised an option in the contract. Nellie, you are a smart guy. You should know this.

          Another option in a contract may be "the price is $900 if you pay by the 1st. Or it will be $1000 if you pay after the first".

          If you pay after the first, you didn't fail to honour the contract. You fulfilled the contract as long as you paid the $1000.

          Do you understand how contracts work, primo? Clauses and options are an equal part of the contract.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Gino Ros
            You are missing the point.

            Floyd DID honour the contract. Was an overweight penalty a part of the contract? Yes.

            Floyd never intended upon making 144. This wasn't a championship fight.

            There are FREQUENTLY options in contracts. Floyd exercised an option in the contract. Nellie, you are a smart guy. You should know this.

            Another option in a contract may be "the price is $900 if you pay by the 1st. Or it will be $1000 if you pay after the first".

            If you pay after the first, you didn't fail to honour the contract. You fulfilled the contract as long as you paid the $1000.

            Do you understand how contracts work, primo? Clauses and options are an equal part of the contract.
            Look if you are contracted to build a house that has to be finished on Sep.1. There will then be penalty clauses if the house isnt finished at the time. Standard procedure.

            However noone signs such a contract with the intent of paying the penalty. Instead they'd rather move the deadline.

            In the case here the contracted weight was based on how far JMM was willing to go. Floyd is a straight ****** if he, as you say, never intended to reach the agreed upon weight. Not very sportsman like.

            JMM was cheated. The public was cheated.

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            • Gino Ros
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              #86
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              In the case here the contracted weight was based on how far JMM was willing to go. Floyd is a straight ****** if he, as you say, never intended to reach the agreed upon weight. Not very sportsman like.

              JMM was cheated. The public was cheated.
              Was it an ****** move? Possibly/Probably. But not unprofessional because he exercised an option in his contract.

              But nobody can say that Floyd didn't announce what he was doing.

              Months before the fight: "I'm not making 143, 144. Whatever weight I come in is where I come in".

              That's all I'm saying.


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              • Fearless
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                #87
                I now can't see Ortiz (Bruno Mars) winning by any chance, Floyd's nearly in shape all he has to do is resharpen those tools that he wielded for years.

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                • The MiZ
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                  #88
                  floyd is ready for anyone at 147, including pac

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                  • tredh
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                    #89
                    So people gonna sit here and say that a family that has been in boxing longer than many of us have been alive and PBF who has been boxing for 20+ years is now gonna over train cause he weighs 149 30 days before his fight. but all of yall are wrong. PBF doesn't have to restrict his diet at all right now.

                    Nobody here in 41 fights has seen PBF have problems so why are yall expecting to see some now?

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                    • TyrantT316
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                      #90
                      Staying in shape like Floyd and Hopkins allows them to keep focus on training skills and sharpening reflexes vs weight making drills which can take time away from sharpening skills.

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