Maidana and mathysse are underrated .....Ortiz is overrated.......

[STRUGG]

what was maidanas "controversial" loss?
ortiz coming off a quittage? ...2 years ago?
why'd you leave out that he picked up a world championship after the peterson draw?

you meaned an HBO protected champion.............who never stepped up..................?......no man that aint right

[Barry Halls]

devon may have been overhyped but hes not "nobody", come on.

[tennis-legend]

ortiz is a no mas

sorry hes not on maidanas level

i think maidana KOs floyd within 4

[STRUGG]

ortiz is a no mas

sorry hes not on maidanas level

i think maidana KOs floyd within 4

naaaaaaah man..............that wont happen

[sugersean15]

stop spamming my thread.................or ignored you shall be..........as much as i dont believe in it......................so it is written ...............so it will be done.........................

you mad lol

[STRUGG]

you mad lol

nope.................i actually pity posters such as yourself.........ignorant arrogant and annoying and all................

[sugersean15]

nope.................i actually pity posters such as yourself.........ignorant arrogant and annoying and all................

thats what every one thinks of you

[Heeb]

Quitted isn't a word. Learn English.

[Phenom]

he probably should be an even larger underdog, but that is irrelevant. The betting market (except for regional ones) are often dictate by sharp money (aka really smart and wealthy winning players betting one side to correct the true odds).

I'm talking about the opinion of the average poster on this site.

I don't know man seems Ortiz has more of doubters then fans on this site if any thing he is underrated fighter who was never ranked with Khan Alexander and Bradley or top 5 in division

even the people on here who think Berto is an overrated Hype job thought Ortiz didn't have a chance

[McFearless]

you meaned an HBO protected champion.............who never stepped up..................?......no man that aint right

he was still a heavy favorite, i would say that says a lot about ortiz' win