both coming off controversial "losses"..........never quitted............while ortiz coming from a quittage and "suspect performance against peterson/......................and El terrible comeback is way more impressive.........
Maidana and mathysse are underrated .....Ortiz is overrated.......
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what was maidanas "controversial" loss?
ortiz coming off a quittage? ...2 years ago?
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if you know any man,women,dog that is willing to go out with him let him know by e mailing him. his threads are a cry for helpComment
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maidana is overrated in my opinion.
mathysse may be underrated, but probably not on this board.
ortiz is for sure overrated, but he looked really good against berto at a new weight. Hes regardless rightfully the second best ranked ww in the world until floyd fights and become active.Comment
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maidana is overrated in my opinion.
mathysse may be underrated, but probably not on this board.
ortiz is for sure overrated, but he looked really good against berto at a new weight. Hes regardless rightfully the second best ranked ww in the world until floyd fights and become active.
how is Ortiz for sure overrated? he is a 6 to 1 underdog in his next fight and was close to 4-1 underdog in his last fightComment
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stop spamming my thread.................or ignored you shall be..........as much as i dont believe in it......................so it is written ...............so it will be done.........................Comment
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he probably should be an even larger underdog, but that is irrelevant. The betting market (except for regional ones) are often dictate by sharp money (aka really smart and wealthy winning players betting one side to correct the true odds).
I'm talking about the opinion of the average poster on this site.Comment
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Madaiana is defintely underrated...
Mathysse IMO hasnt fought anyone he's overrated
Ortiz is right where he should be, dude fought his ass off against BERTO, and hasnt lost a fight in 2+yrs... Id take Lamont Peterson over Mathysse and a close lost to Madaiana...Comment
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controversial loss against khan........a past prime morales did beat him barely though............but morales is one of the bestof his generation.........maidana is overrated in my opinion.
mathysse may be underrated, but probably not on this board.
ortiz is for sure overrated, but he looked really good against berto at a new weight. Hes regardless rightfully the second best ranked ww in the world until floyd fights and become active.Comment
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