Who would be Favored Against Victor coming off a Two-Year Layoff?

[MindBat]

1. He's name is Ortiz. Lets not make it seem bigger than what it really is by saying #2 WW champ. That is more on how whack the WW division is than what Ortiz has accomplished at WW.

2. Yes Pac would be favorite coming off a long layoff against Ortiz. Why would anyone think otherwise? Pac is on a whole different level than Ortiz. Just like Floyd is.

Both Floyd and Pac are on a whole different level than all the other WWs.

Your last question has nothing to do with what the thread is about.

Would Malignaggi fight Ortiz coming off a long layoff? I doubt it. But, that's not what the question is about.

The question if Selcuk Aydin would be favorite over Ortiz coming off a long layoff. I doubt it.

Would Pac be favorite and would Pac fight Ortiz coming off a long layoff are two different questions.

Pac being favorite over Ortiz is the answer to the TS question.

Your question is irrelevant or totally different than what the thread is about.

As I asked Mak, You sure?

It was a question in another thread that Seemed like a good discussion point. "ALmost 2 year layoff" would be better. I'm of the opinion no one including manny would be favored against Vic coming off such a layoff.

[jrosales13]

You sure ... ?

Yes.

Re-read what you highlighted.

Big Dunn opinion is that Floyd is the only WW that would be favored over Ortiz coming off a long layoff.

Then he asked for others opinions and who would they think would be favor over Ortiz coming off a long layoff.

[jrosales13]

It was a question in another thread that Seemed like a good discussion point. "ALmost 2 year layoff" would be better. I'm of the opinion no one including manny would be favored against Vic coming off such a layoff.

Saying almost 2 years is wrong too though.

It's almost a year and a half. It's closer to 1 year than it is 2 years.

And, I don't know why you don't think Pac would be favored against Ortiz. But, it's whatever. It's your opinion.

IMO both Floyd and Pac are on another level.

[The Big Dunn]

Ortiz not a bum
but he's a bum compared to Floyd
the guy has no chance
don't mean Floyd gets no props for beating him, he does

I wouldn't say no chance but its very low. Is there any fighter you think would be favored or even money if they took Vic's place.

[BoxingGenius27]

Was I not suppose to do that?

Why would you ask such a question and then act like mentioning Hagler is not allowed?

Because it wasn't the point of the argument.

The "argument" was how having a long layoff can effect any fighter and has effected other great fighters.

Not who's had the best opposition while coming back from a long layoff.

[MindBat]

Yes.

Re-read what you highlighted.

Big Dunn opinion is that Floyd is the only WW that would be favored over Ortiz coming off a long layoff.

Then he asked for others opinions and who would they think would be favor over Ortiz coming off a long layoff.

Ok. You mentioned Pacquiao would be favored over Ortiz and I asked how would you be certain they (Freddie, et al) would NOT match him up with someone much less of a threat as a tune up after coming off a 2 year lay-off?

I stand corrected if Big Dunn was referring to something else altogether.

[Jack Napier]

I wouldn't say no chance but its very low. Is there any fighter you think would be favored or even money if they took Vic's place.

only Pac
Pac and Floyd are on par, everyone else a class or 2 below

[jrosales13]

Ok. You mentioned Pacquiao would be favored over Ortiz

Right.

and I asked how would you be certain they (Freddie, et al) would NOT match him up with someone much less of a threat as a tune up after coming off a 2 year lay-off?

I stand corrected if Big Dunn was referring to something else altogether.

But, that's irrelevant to the question.

I would say Ortiz would be favored fighting Senchenko if Sanchenko is coming off a 2 year layoff.

How would I be certain if Senchenko fights Ortiz coming off a 2 year layoff is a whole different question all together.

[brick wall]

2-year layoff bull****...it's not even 1.5 years. shane had the same amount of layoff before he fought floyd. the **** you think floyd is doing is something special? gtfo

[jrosales13]

Because it wasn't the point of the argument.

The "argument" was how having a long layoff can effect any fighter and has effected other great fighters.

Not who's had the best opposition while coming back from a long layoff.

Then why would you say "look at their competition..."