Can Oscar return and beat Cotto?

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  • BigStereotype
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    #31
    Originally posted by CarlosG815
    How many times do you have to be proven wrong and made a fool? It has been done countless times, like the time when you tried to strongarm me in a convo about Dempsey (another fighter among many you know nothing about) and you looked like a buffoon. Stereotype, you are nothing more than a puppet who regurgitates what he hears, and you have not watched as much boxing as you think. You are a fool and anybody who has seen your posts over the last couple years knows this.

    Tell me again about the lack of Dempseys greatness and how I am the "only one" who ranks him as highly as I do. Or perhaps you can give an in depth blow by blow of how Pacquiao vs Henry Armstrong would go, as you so often do.

    You are a total clown, but because the majority of this forum loves Miguel Cotto and Oscar has this stigma about him because of his looks, you run with the masses as per usual. Nothing new from you. Cotto at his best is a B level fighter, Oscar was an Elite. Go back and watch Cotto fight life and death with Paulie Malignaggi and struggle against a Yuri Foreman with one leg and then with a washed up bum in Mayorga. Buy the hype because that is what most of NSB has done. The sad part is, they legitimately like the guy, you just nuthug him because everybody else does. Like a blind wandering child just looking for acceptance.

    You're pathetic, stereotype. Cotto couldn't hang with Oscar if Oscar got into fight shape, and you will never realize that because instead of watching Oscar fight from a boxing fans point of view, you watch him with a tainted perspective that you've developed from reading what other people think.

    Stand down, son. I look forward to owning your ****** ass for years to come.
    You just aren't going to get over that Dempsey thing are you? Not sure what you mean about Armstrong and Pacquiao, though. I'm still waiting for one instance of a "regurgitated opinion."But now the fun part.

    Cotto couldn't hang with Oscar in his prime. Probably not. He has problems with speed and that is one thing Oscar had out the ass (among many others...) But here's the thing. Oscar can't get in fighting shape any more. He is 100%, completely, stick a fucking fork in him done. Just because he makes your panties wet does not mean that he can still fight. Sorry, face the facts Carlos. But saying that I'm a fan of his because the rest of the board is almost not worth addressing. Almost. I love Miguel Cotto because he's an exciting fighter. His wars with Margarito, Judah, Mosley, Torres, Clottey and Pacquiao make me watch him. Not NSB, the majority of which I hate

    But don't waste your time reading this, sonny needs a ride home from the airport! If you leave quick, you just might make it!

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    • CarlosG815
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      #32
      Originally posted by BigStereotype
      You just aren't going to get over that Dempsey thing are you? Not sure what you mean about Armstrong and Pacquiao, though. I'm still waiting for one instance of a "regurgitated opinion."But now the fun part.

      Cotto couldn't hang with Oscar in his prime. Probably not. He has problems with speed and that is one thing Oscar had out the ass (among many others...) But here's the thing. Oscar can't get in fighting shape any more. He is 100%, completely, stick a fucking fork in him done. Just because he makes your panties wet does not mean that he can still fight. Sorry, face the facts Carlos. But saying that I'm a fan of his because the rest of the board is almost not worth addressing. Almost. I love Miguel Cotto because he's an exciting fighter. His wars with Margarito, Judah, Mosley, Torres, Clottey and Pacquiao make me watch him. Not NSB, the majority of which I hate

      But don't waste your time reading this, sonny needs a ride home from the airport! If you leave quick, you just might make it!
      Once again you try too hard to be witty and you fail. Why sidestep the Dempsey thing? Because it is hardcore proof of what an idiot you are? Or the other countless posts you've made giving "blow by blow" of how a fight would go, most of the time is ******ed?

      And you don't have to front - you are a "go with the masses" fanboy. Yeah, it was so exciting watching him get his face disfigured by Margarito - what a show that was. And who could forget the action packed fight with Clottey. Damn kid, did you even watch those fights? I'm thinking you did not.

      Keep on ****ing riding with hopes that all these Cotto lovers with rep you. You are just a pitiful child.

      Tell me more about Dempsey's career and how over rated he is today, I need a good laugh, and that is one thing you're good for.

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      • justnz27
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        #33
        Originally posted by LaMigra
        Prime Oscar was a beast...
        Prime Oscar was a runner whenever someone made solid contact with his face or body. Oscar was not a beast, he was a good boxer with speed and some power, now Trinidad was a beast, he was knocking guys out bad, a prime Oscar would not beat Cotto only because Cottos style is very deceptive and would make Oscar impatient then thts when he gets in trouble and cotto tags him up with the jab and body shots, Oscar loses to Cotto even in his prime.

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        • BigStereotype
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          #34
          Originally posted by CarlosG815
          Once again you try too hard to be witty and you fail. Why sidestep the Dempsey thing? Because it is hardcore proof of what an idiot you are? Or the other countless posts you've made giving "blow by blow" of how a fight would go, most of the time is ******ed?

          And you don't have to front - you are a "go with the masses" fanboy. Yeah, it was so exciting watching him get his face disfigured by Margarito - what a show that was. And who could forget the action packed fight with Clottey. Damn kid, did you even watch those fights? I'm thinking you did not.

          Keep on ****ing riding with hopes that all these Cotto lovers with rep you. You are just a pitiful child.

          Tell me more about Dempsey's career and how over rated he is today, I need a good laugh, and that is one thing you're good for.
          Watching him get his face disfigured by Margarito was a show. That was an electrifying all time great fight. And he had a solid battle and showed hard against Clottey. Why would I post about them if I hadn't watched them. You keep saying I chase green K and ****, but why would I? What about that is so important? Also, I never, EVER said that Dempsey is overrated. I said that YOU overrated him. He's one of my favorites. But he's not the best ever. Plain and simple. You said he was. That's overrating. And you're so obsessed with this supposed "own," even though I gave you credit for the sources and weighed them in my own opinion. I still disagree. What about that is an own? I'm always willing to learn more about an old school fighter. Oh, I thought I'd remind you, did you take out sonny's trash yet? It has to be out by tonight or the garbage men won't get it in the morning.

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          • CarlosG815
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            #35
            Originally posted by justnz27
            Prime Oscar was a runner whenever someone made solid contact with his face or body. Oscar was not a beast, he was a good boxer with speed and some power, now Trinidad was a beast, he was knocking guys out bad, a prime Oscar would not beat Cotto only because Cottos style is very deceptive and would make Oscar impatient then thts when he gets in trouble and cotto tags him up with the jab and body shots, Oscar loses to Cotto even in his prime.
            Oscar was able to show that he was the far superior boxer to Trinidad and was able to outbox and hit him at will while avoiding most of Trinidad's shots. He did make the mistake of taking a breather for the last couple rounds but the way I, and most had it scored, he was so far ahead that it did not matter.

            I think you need to watch more of Oscar if that is the kind of fighter you see him as because not many historians would agree with you. Cotto on the other hand, is a typical Top Rank creation. He's not a terrible fighter, but he is far short of an ATG, whereas Oscar is a legit ATG.

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            • CarlosG815
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              #36
              Originally posted by BigStereotype
              Watching him get his face disfigured by Margarito was a show. That was an electrifying all time great fight. And he had a solid battle and showed hard against Clottey. Why would I post about them if I hadn't watched them. You keep saying I chase green K and ****, but why would I? What about that is so important? Also, I never, EVER said that Dempsey is overrated. I said that YOU overrated him. He's one of my favorites. But he's not the best ever. Plain and simple. You said he was. That's overrating. And you're so obsessed with this supposed "own," even though I gave you credit for the sources and weighed them in my own opinion. I still disagree. What about that is an own? I'm always willing to learn more about an old school fighter. Oh, I thought I'd remind you, did you take out sonny's trash yet? It has to be out by tonight or the garbage men won't get it in the morning.
              Man, your failed attempts at humor aren't the least bit funny, so why keep on with the Sonny shtick? The only time you're funny is when you pretend to know anything about boxing and throw in your .02. That's when people are rolling. So please, tell us about the career of Dempsey because that is your comic relief gem.

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                #37
                Originally posted by CarlosG815
                Man, your failed attempts at humor aren't the least bit funny, so why keep on with the Sonny shtick? The only time you're funny is when you pretend to know anything about boxing and throw in your .02. That's when people are rolling. So please, tell us about the career of Dempsey because that is your comic relief gem.
                You're just going to keep masturbating about one time you knew something than I didn't, alright. You know how pathetic it is? Also, speaking of, it's time for Sonny's quarter-daily happy ending. You know how it is

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                • justnz27
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                  #38
                  [QUOTE=CarlosG815;10982724]Oscar was able to show that he was the far superior boxer to Trinidad and was able to outbox and hit him at will while avoiding most of Trinidad's shots. He did make the mistake of taking a breather for the last couple rounds but the way I, and most had it scored, he was so far ahead that it did not matter.

                  I think you need to watch more of Oscar if that is the kind of fighter you see him as because not many historians would agree with you. Cotto on the other hand, is a typical Top Rank creation. He's not a terrible fighter, but he is far short of an ATG, whereas Oscar is a legit ATG.[/QUO

                  Ok first off i wasnt comparing the fight they had between eachother but since u wanna go there here goes, Most historians and judges had Trinidad winiing the 1st and 4th round after tht the last 5 rounds oscar ran becasue he felt the power which makes trinidad the winner, like Jerry Roth said " lets wathc the fight with no sound and u tell me who won?", I ve watched this fight many times and it was mostly the crowd cheering every punch Oscar threw even if it didnt land, yeah he won most of the beginning rounds but he didnt win tht fight, u said he was a "BEAST" i never said he wasnt atg or good, but he wasnt no beast, and again Cotto hasnt had the oppuntunity to fight the quality opponents tht de la hoys has fought, although the most quality opponents tht oscar fought he lost, check the record, trinidad lost to the best three middleweights boxing has ever seen (Hopkins, Winky, and Jones jr.) on the other hadn styles make fights, Cotto is not like Mosley cuz he doesnt get hit as much though he strayed away from his defense in a couple of fights but if u watch him and Mosely, mosely through the kitchen sink at him and was still confused as to wht to do to beat cotto, cottos style would confuse Oscar who is also a sucker for left hooks to the body, so yeah Cotto beats a prime Oscar!

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                  • CarlosG815
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BigStereotype
                    You're just going to keep masturbating about one time you knew something than I didn't, alright. You know how pathetic it is? Also, speaking of, it's time for Sonny's quarter-daily happy ending. You know how it is
                    Son, I have forgotten more than you have ever known. I was watching Oscar/Tito live on a big screen while you were playing with your sisters Barbie dolls. I watched guys like Morales and Barrera and their battles as they unfolded, unlike you who has learned everything he knows about boxing from reading the opinions of fanboys on a boxing forum. "The one time." Please, son, keep walking around thinking you're never wrong because you jump on the opinion bandwagon of an online forum, when in reality, you never know what you're talking about.

                    It must hurt you because you know deep down everything that I am saying about you is true, as I have pegged you from the start and watched everything I have thought about you has unfolded. It's so easy to predict which opinions you will share because all I have to do is read the posts prior to yours to know exactly which wagon you'll jump on.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by CarlosG815
                      Son, I have forgotten more than you have ever known. I was watching Oscar/Tito live on a big screen while you were playing with your sisters Barbie dolls. I watched guys like Morales and Barrera and their battles as they unfolded, unlike you who has learned everything he knows about boxing from reading the opinions of fanboys on a boxing forum. "The one time." Please, son, keep walking around thinking you're never wrong because you jump on the opinion bandwagon of an online forum, when in reality, you never know what you're talking about.

                      It must hurt you because you know deep down everything that I am saying about you is true, as I have pegged you from the start and watched everything I have thought about you has unfolded. It's so easy to predict which opinions you will share because all I have to do is read the posts prior to yours to know exactly which wagon you'll jump on.
                      Which is why I'll be covering fights ringside very soon while you will be locked in sonny's basement in a vinyl mask.

                      And honestly, on a real, non-internet feud level, do not ever call me son again. I'm serious.

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