Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Expects To Face Mayweather "Next Year"

[jtiger777]

i'm not stopping you from believing what you want to believe when it comes to floyd...i know you're a big fan of him. But me, i want to maintain a wait and see attitude when it comes to floyd and pac. No negotiation is going to be smooth for these guys...not even a truckload of money will stop them from being a diva.

And who cares about arum? The guy is a businessman and a sneaky one at that. Is he going to try to make money as much as he can? Of course, and if he needs to use dirty schemes to have it he will do it...that should be expected from a guy like arum. But i don't believe the ***** bull**** that arum is trying to stop the fight because he hates floyd. It's all about the money for him.

well we will wait and see if floyd demands pac to train in america only... And we will wait to see whats next up arums sleeve....

[peplz]

Big Dunn. No one is distorting! USADA does not test outside the US and WADA tests outside and inside the US. Manny has agreed to the tests, that is something that NO May fans can argue anymore! WADA will do the VERY tests that Mayweather wanted and Pac has agreed to.

WADA does not test at all. And USADA is capable of going to the Phillipines to conduct the tests for Pacquiao. So the notion that he would need to train in the U.S. in order for USADA to have access to him is simply not true. Mayweather Sr. was incorrect in his assumption of such. I think that the only reason that this ever came up is because of Bob Arum's pronouncements that USADA is not an impartial organization. And I really can't see how anyone can say that Pacquiao has agreed to everything when the organization that actually does the testing (USADA)has been deemed untrustwothy by his promoter and the organization (WADA) that he considers to be impartial and trustworthy doesn't even actually conduct testing. This sort of "agreement" offers a solution on one hand and then creates a new problem on the other hand that totally negates the solution. Bob Arum is a master media manipulator.

[D4thincarnation]

That is the only reason I approach ESPN articles with caution. I believe dan is a credible journalist. But I also believe he, just like me or anyone else, would take the word of his long time friend without hesitation.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content6443.html

Floyd's website of choice, says nothing about blood tests.

Do you agree now that Floyd brought in the blood test demands late in the day when everything else was agreed?

[QADASHBANYAH]

i'm not stopping you from believing what you want to believe when it comes to floyd...i know you're a big fan of him. but me, i want to maintain a wait and see attitude when it comes to floyd and pac. no negotiation is going to be smooth for these guys...not even a truckload of money will stop them from being a diva.

and who cares about arum? the guy is a businessman and a sneaky one at that. is he going to try to make money as much as he can? of course, and if he needs to use dirty schemes to have it he will do it...that should be expected from a guy like arum. but i don't believe the ***** bull**** that arum is trying to stop the fight because he hates floyd. it's all about the money for him.

Hes not trying to stop it, only have it much later as he bleeds manny dry. Remember manny is looking for advances from arum....

Now manny has an outside company coming in looking at his business...

I mean if you were mannys manager and you had to face floyd there is definitely a chance that manny could lose, and as you stated ARUM WILL GO FOR EVERY DOLLAR, WHICH MEANS GET THEM DOLLARS BEFORE YOU CASH HIM OUT.

MARQUEZ ISNT GOING TO BEAT MANNY, YOU KNOW THIS MAN....

HES FIGHTING TOP RANK FIGHTERS THAT ARE COMING OFF LOSSES, BAD PERFORMANCES ETC. COME ON NOW. THIS IS FACT. WHO HAS HE FOUGHT IN HIS LAST X6 FIGHTS COMING OFF A MEANINGFUL WIN?

REMEMBER ITS BEEN ALL IN HOUSE, MEANING ARUM GETS AS MUCH CASH AS POSSIBLE.....

NOT ONE OF THE LAST 6 OPPONENTS WERE COMING OFF MEANINGFUL WINS..

[The Big Dunn]

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content6443.html

Floyd's website of choice, says nothing about blood tests.

Do you agree now that Floyd brought in the blood test demands late in the day when everything else was agreed?

Again no mention of the $10 mil per pound. To save you some time, the point is just because the articles do not include mention of OST, is not an indication it was added late. The same articles do not mention the $10 mil per lb stip. Does that mean that was added late?

Given the articles its impossible to draw the conclusion that the OST demand was late.

[Tamis!]

Look at the mad scramble of spins, excuses and bail-outs of the Floyd stans right in this thread.

This wouldn't all be an issue if you stans aren't all that defensive and fabricate excuses for Floyd.

I myself am waiting for Floyd to say it, not Sr.

But I don't ever forget that it was Floyd Sr. who started all this "Manny is on something" that led to Jr. asking for tests, so this is not far fetched.

But I'll wait for Floyd to say something about this.

[SERVILEV]

Its official.

Manny Pacquiao is a coward and Bob Arum is protecting his fighter from any real competition.

Its bad enough that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents have ALL been coming off the biggest losses of their careers and that Pacquiao has used catchweights to make a case for being a dominant pseudo-WW, but now when Pacquiao is presented with a clear cut opportunity to show the world that he can stand and deliver against the best boxer in the world, he and his promoter come up with **** like "Well, Mayweather's dad made a comment ... and we didn't like it".

Since when does Mayweather Sr make career decisions for Floyd? Name ONE TIME. If you don't hear it from Floyd Jr, then its no official. Its a spin meant to remove blame from the party that is still refusing to sign the contract.

Since 2009, All of what Floyd Mayweather asked for was on the table. There's nothing new. Floyd lived up to all of Pacquiao's demands.

When a boxer keeps changing his demands to make a fight more difficult to make, you know he's stalling or he doesn't want the fight at all.

Everything from fear of needles, to claims of USADA being prejudiced to internal financial problems in the Pacquiao camp has been used o stall this fight.

Keep in mind, from the beginning of negotiations, USADA testing was Team Mayweather's original demand. Once Pacquiao agreed to what he claims was "ALL of Floyd's demands", there should have been NOTHING standing in the way of a contract signed by both parties.

Yet, Manny will NOT sign the contract. Manny is about to fight a man he's fought twice already 2 divisions below where he's currently campaigning. Now he's making Marquez come up in weight despite claims by Arum that 'Manny is sooooooo small and can't go up any higher to make 147 or 150lbs".

This is fcuking shameful. And quite frankly, I can't see an honest boxing fan that wouldn't be tired of this ****.

History will show Pacquiao as a media creation who used his supposed "too small stature" as a crutch rather than him being the "little conqueror" that Arum paints him out to be. Pacquiao is ONLY 2 inches shorter than Floyd and Mosley. Yet the man asks for every advantage possible.

When Floyd fought DLH, did Floyd ask him to come down in weight? No. DLH came in 170lbs+ and Floyd manned up and won the fight. When Roy Jones went up to HW, did he ask Ruiz to come down to 205lbs? No. Roy manned up and just won the damn fight.

Why the special conditions for Pacquiao? Is it because he's Asian? Does being Asian automatically imply that he's little and needs extra help and considerations? Is that why the most popular ******* argument has been "C'mon. He's a little guy beating bigger guys. You gotta cut him some slack."
I don't think so because as far as I know, Donaire has NEVER tried to play those games. He comes to fight and he wins without catchweights or stipulating how big his opponents can walk into the ring.

Its not an Asian thing. Its a Pacquiao thing.

Real champions don't need to be "cut slack". Real champions don't fight 5th ranked fighters to make a case for being #1. Real champions don't compete for 5 different vacant titles to make a legacy of greatness.

Pacquiao has his chance to shine, but like always he avoids the REAL challenges and settles for padding his record with BIG NAMES rather than real substance.

Now ... is this my opinion, or is Pacquiao currently still creating new demands in 2011 when all of his demands were on the table and met by Floyd in 2009?

Is that an opinion or a fact?

Has Floyd created any new demand that wasn't in the original negotiations?

Its time to start dealing with facts and leave the fiction to Stan Lee. Pacman ain't no superhero, and he sure as hell ain't taking the boxing world by storm by fighting 4th and 5th ranked BIG NAMED fighters at catchweights.

Has anyone even bothered to mention that Pacquiao may be stalling this megafight with Floyd Mayweather in an effort to squeeze as many lesser fights in before he mans up in order to go out with a ****?

If that's the case, then why not just say so??!?! That's clearly what's happening. And the longer Pacquiao stalls, the older Mayweather is getting. The older Mayweather gets, the more likely that he will lose his prime abilities.

I said it before:

Its official. Manny Pacquiao is a coward and Bob Arum is protecting his fighter from any real competition.

its official!! your the biggest mayw **** ever..

[AFighter4U]

exactly great post!!!!! Its like they are hoping floyd says it

I for one hope that floyd jr WON'T say it and the fight finally gets done.

[D4thincarnation]

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...is-week--24149

Everything has been agreed upon, including Olympic style drug testing of both fighters.

http://manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-maywe...osteroids.html

The two sides agreed to Olympic-style drug testing. But Roach is not going to allow his fighter to be subjected to blood tests a few weeks before the fight. Roach was visibly upset when discussing the allegations that are being made by Floyd Mayweather Sr. In what has become a very hot topic of debate, Floyd Sr. has accused Pacquiao of using illegal drugs.

"Nevada is a great commission. They have drug testing that is sufficient. The issue I have is this, I will not let anyone take blood out of Manny Pacquiao six-weeks before a fight because that will mentally affect him. If they want a urine test or something else. Olympic-style drug testing, they do urine tests. I have no problem with that," Roach said.

Pacquiao agree to Floyd's testing demands before, only for Floyd to move the goalposts.

[tredh]

Look at the mad scramble of spins, excuses and bail-outs of the Floyd stans right in this thread.

This wouldn't all be an issue if you stans aren't all that defensive and fabricate excuses for Floyd.

I myself am waiting for Floyd to say it, not Sr.

But I don't ever forget that it was Floyd Sr. who started all this "Manny is on something" that led to Jr. asking for tests, so this is not far fetched.

But I'll wait for Floyd to say something about this.

You know the underlined have been proven false a long time ago by Earner. I agree with part of what you are saying in that Sr was one of the first to go public with those statements but he wasn't the first to start saying Manny is on something.

For anybody who will ask: No I will not look up the link to Earner's thread to show you what he posted.