It's not over for Berto, he can still be a champ and p4p boxer

[Imatroll]

Major Fail thread.
Berto is garbage

[D4thincarnation]

yeah berto definitely needs to get a new trainer and next time he shouldn't have his brother in the corner spewing crap advice.

So true, felt sorry for Berto going back to his corner after a round of Ortiz wailing on him and having to listen to his brother talk ****.

[Check]

Are people seriously counting out Berto, WOW! The dude lost, yeah but he lost in the ***ing fight of the year! Dude has a lot left in the tank and might actually come back better! Man, this site is ***ed up if that's the case.

[Feint]

I definitely think he can still be a star in this sport. He has an amazing skill set and a great personality. However, instead of providing excuses he should take responsibility for his defeat and work to improve on areas of deficiency.

[shenmue]

Its hard to judge Berto, on paper he is a former "World Champion" yet the title was gifted to him in the form of a vacated title fight against a poor fighter Yet when he stepped up in competition he lost to Ortiz and should have been given a loss against Collazo.

He does have a couple of decent wins against Urango and Quintana but those wins are nothing that special.

His fight against Zaveck is a big one that he needs to win, there's many better fighters out there so if he can't beat Zaveck for the IBF title its going to be hard for him to come back.

[Cyberspace]

Berto rose to the top of his game and could not beat a fair light welterweight.

I doubt he will get much further.

[D4thincarnation]

Its hard to judge Berto, on paper he is a former "World Champion" yet the title was gifted to him in the form of a vacated title fight against a poor fighter Yet when he stepped up in competition he lost to Ortiz and should have been given a loss against Collazo.

He does have a couple of decent wins against Urango and Quintana but those wins are nothing that special.

His fight against Zaveck is a big one that he needs to win, there's many better fighters out there so if he can't beat Zaveck for the IBF title its going to be hard for him to come back.

Quitana has been doing nothing for years. Cotto beat him so badly child protection services were going to take him away.

[shenmue]

Quitana has been doing nothing for years. Cotto beat him so badly child protection services were going to take him away.

Yeah i was being kind to him calling them decent wins, but incredibly they are his best wins on paper. Urango isn't even a Welterweight.

[Elotero]

I think berto has that natural gifted ability to be a 3 division champ, but the outside influences damage his career.

How hard was he really training for ortiz? I hear lots of bad stories about who he rolls with down here in miami. Even worse for gamboa but that's a different story.

Aww, You gotta spill the beans now. Gamboa rolling with Cuban Gambino's?

[D4thincarnation]

Yeah i was being kind to him calling them decent wins, but incredibly they are his best wins on paper. Urango isn't even a Welterweight.

Collazo was probably his best win, and that was not even a win. Good fight though, I gave it to Collazo by a round.

Berto is not a bad fighter he is just not a very good figher.

The Zaveck fight should be an interesting one though, another welter champ that has been largely untested.