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  • right_hand_lead
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    Berto Criticism?

    Am I the only one that doesn't think Berto is finished?

    I mean, he got beat by a strong Ortiz, but almost seems he didn't take that match-up too seriously.

    And yes, his competition up to that point wasn't the best, but the sport needs a fast, powerful, explosive fighter. He's exciting to watch most of the time.

    Call me crazy, but I think an Ortiz rematch looks way different than the first fight. Maybe he'll want to prove that he's got a bit more heart than it seems.

    Just my thoughts.

  • Kagami Taiga
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    hes not finished. i dunno who would think that. he didnt look that bad in the ortiz fight. he lost but he showed a lot of heart and determination. with that said, he has huuuuuge holes in his game and he has a lot of work to do. im sure he'll get a belt but there are many fighters around his division that are gonna be picked over him.

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    • gatorDelux
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      #3
      i dont think the probalem is that he is finished....

      i think he wasnt that great to begin with....

      he needs to work on the technical side of the game....

      with better skills to go with he great athleticism he could be pretty damn good...

      but i think he is with thwrong trainer....

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        #4
        Originally posted by right_hand_lead
        Am I the only one that doesn't think Berto is finished?

        I mean, he got beat by a strong Ortiz, but almost seems he didn't take that match-up too seriously.

        And yes, his competition up to that point wasn't the best, but the sport needs a fast, powerful, explosive fighter. He's exciting to watch most of the time.

        Call me crazy, but I think an Ortiz rematch looks way different than the first fight. Maybe he'll want to prove that he's got a bit more heart than it seems.

        Just my thoughts.

        Definitely agree with you.

        I would also love a Berto Ortiz rematch; if Ortiz loses to Mayweather.

        Berto vs Ortiz 2 in January 2011.

        Winner fights the winner of Khan vs Bradley (if that comes off) mid-summer.

        Then the winner of that fights the winner of Pac vs Mayweather in the winter 2012.

        You can only dream..

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        • El.Naranjito707
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          #5
          Originally posted by ghns1133
          i dont think the probalem is that he is finished....

          i think he wasnt that great to begin with....

          he needs to work on the technical side of the game....

          with better skills to go with he great athleticism he could be pretty damn good...

          but i think he is with thwrong trainer....
          He also needs to face actual competition and not bums or people moving up in weight...

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          • Leohappy
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            #6
            berto is way too wild with his technique. he will probably be beaten by any boxer who comes with a plan, and withstands some of the berto's pressure. zavec should study the ortiz tape to get a clue how to beat him.

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            • brick wall
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              #7
              he can come back strong for sure but if you base it on nsb standard, it's either he's done, shot or a leftover...just like what happened to hatton and cotto after they suffered their first defeat.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #8
                The only criticism I have for him is he isn't a very good fighter, at all.

                He's 27 years old and has done almost nothing in his entire career.

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                • wazaa 2.0
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  The only criticism I have for him is he isn't a very good fighter, at all.

                  He's 27 years old and has done almost nothing in his entire career.
                  This.

                  People become blind when they see a boxer with Speed and Power.

                  Berto has absolutely horrendeous ring generalship.

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                  • shenmue
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                    #10
                    Berto was gifted a World title then defended it against Bums/fighters coming up in Weight and the 2 times he stepped up he got beat or should have got beat.

                    There's fighters out there that haven't won a "World Title" like Berto did but are better than him. I can see Zaveck beating him.

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