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Why did many sleep on Salido in his fight with Juanma?

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  • #21
    I actually think salido has arrived.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by McFearless View Post
      juanma is 33??
      Salido and Mtagwa took years off Juanma's life, so his body is 33 years old now from the beatings.

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      • #23
        juanma wastes himself, punches himself out of fights. he needs to calm the **** down. this can be fixed easily

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Froghead99 View Post
          JuanMa claimed something was off that night, that his hands were slow, and he couldn't get them going. It's probably just an excuse, but he was 33 at the time of the fight, and everyone slows down.

          But Salido is actually an excellent fighter, so it's not a huge shock when you think about it.
          Originally posted by McFearless View Post
          juanma is 33??
          JuanMa was 27 at the time of the fight. He turned 28 in June.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Medved View Post
            You are the ******, LUCK in boxing plays a HUGE role in a fight.

            One lucky punch can make a diffirence in the fight.

            Do you think if fighter A and fighter B fight 10 times that the person who wins the first time will win all 10 times? It doesnt work like that.

            A lowblow here, a headbutt there, a bodyshot there, one wrong big breath and getting punched in liver/kidney/stomach and fight can change drastically.

            1. Juan Ma is still a much better fighter.
            2. Its like saying Prescott is way better and that his KO wasnt Luck and that he will win 10/10 fights.

            Luck is HUGE in Boxing. Changes peoples careers and fortunes (ie lucky Lewis cut on Vitali saved his ass from a Loss)
            1. no he is not
            2. no. now if Salido stopped JuanMa in one round after blitzing him then I could see it but for the most part Salido was dominant at times against JuanMa and the punch he landed to put JuanMa on his ass was not luck it was there all night

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            • #26
              Because people were focused on the possibility of JuanMa vs Gamboa and nobody really wanted to think about the possibility of JuanMa losing and blowing that fight. Now all of a sudden, Gamboa vs John looks a whole lot better and more appealing.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Medved View Post
                You are the ******, LUCK in boxing plays a HUGE role in a fight.

                One lucky punch can make a diffirence in the fight.

                Do you think if fighter A and fighter B fight 10 times that the person who wins the first time will win all 10 times? It doesnt work like that.

                A lowblow here, a headbutt there, a bodyshot there, one wrong big breath and getting punched in liver/kidney/stomach and fight can change drastically.

                Juan Ma is still a much better fighter. Its like saying Prescott is way better and that his KO wasnt Luck and that he will win 10/10 fights.

                Luck is HUGE in Boxing. Changes peoples careers and fortunes (ie lucky Lewis cut on Vitali saved his ass from a Loss)
                There was nothing lucky about that fight. Salido beat Lopez's ass the majority of that fight, and stopped him with punches he had been landing all night. It would have been luck if Salido landed a random big punch, he landed a lot of big punches, over and over.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Medved View Post
                  Salido was and still is a Journeyman at BEST and a BUM at worst, he just got lucky. You know when they say a fighter wins a fight 9 out of 10 times? well this was the 1 out of 10 exception.

                  puto JuanMa probably didnt do any hard training and was just chilling.

                  JuanMa KO's Salido in 3rd next fight
                  You're crazy. That wasn't a fluke. A fluke is when a fighter is absolutely thrasing an opponent and suddenly gets hit with a crazy hailmary shot and crashes to the canvas unconscious or unable to recover. (see Judah/Tszyu, Torres/Holt, Jones/Tarver II but I'll Tarver credit because he actually went and won the third fight).

                  Another thing that wasn't a fluke was Martínez/Williams II despite the crazy knockout. Martínez was landing his left hand VERY frequently and on the 18th-21st attempt he finally pressed the off switch on Williams' body. Salido is not a bum, he was flying under everybody's radar and he 's been in the ring with good fighters (the fact that he decisioned Guerrero before getting overturned and that he went the distance with Gamboa AND fought with Márquez and went the distance with him as well speaks volumes).

                  Ever since Juanma had that great year (2008) where he got 3 TKO victories in the 1st round and one third round TKO, he fell in love with his power.

                  He can't go to war with every fighter out there. The way he swings arounds his arms when hurt is just begging to get knocked out cold. Can you imagine had that been Gamboa catching him with a straight right/left uppercut combination in an exchange?

                  I'm taking bets left and right with this. Anybody wants to bet on Juanma, come and get them! I'll give you 2 to 1 odds. PM me!

                  I'd like Juanma to win but I really don't see it happening.
                  Last edited by TintaBoricua; 08-11-2011, 02:49 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Medved View Post
                    You are the ******, LUCK in boxing plays a HUGE role in a fight.

                    One lucky punch can make a diffirence in the fight.

                    Do you think if fighter A and fighter B fight 10 times that the person who wins the first time will win all 10 times? It doesnt work like that.

                    A lowblow here, a headbutt there, a bodyshot there, one wrong big breath and getting punched in liver/kidney/stomach and fight can change drastically.

                    Juan Ma is still a much better fighter. Its like saying Prescott is way better and that his KO wasnt Luck and that he will win 10/10 fights.

                    Luck is HUGE in Boxing. Changes peoples careers and fortunes (ie lucky Lewis cut on Vitali saved his ass from a Loss)
                    No such thing as luck in boxing, you throw the punch, it's the opponents job to avoid it.

                    Just because 2 fighters fight 10 times and you might not get the same result has nothing to do with luck. It's the preparation, game plan and performance level of that particular fighter that night.

                    Originally posted by McFearless View Post
                    juanma is 33??
                    No he's not, they are just examples of two trolls who don't even do their jobs very well.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by TintaBoricua View Post
                      You're crazy. That wasn't a fluke. A fluke is when a fighter is absolutely thrasing an opponent and suddenly gets hit with a crazy hailmary shot and crashes to the canvas unconscious or unable to recover. (see Judah/Tszyu, Torres/Holt, Jones/Tarver II but I'll Tarver credit because he actually went and won the third fight).

                      Another thing that wasn't a fluke was Martínez/Williams II despite the crazy knockout. Martínez was landing his left hand VERY frequently and on the 18th-21st attempt he finally pressed the off switch on Williams' body. Salido is not a bum, he was flying under everybody's radar and he 's been in the ring with good fighters (the fact that he decisioned Guerrero before getting overturned and that he went the distance with Gamboa AND fought with Márquez and went the distance with him as well speaks volumes).

                      Ever since Juanma had that great year (2008) where he got 3 TKO victories in the 1st round and one third round TKO, he fell in love with his power.

                      He can't go to war with every fighter out there. The way he swings arounds his arms when hurt is just begging to get knocked out cold. Can you imagine had that been Gamboa catching him with a straight right/left uppercut combination in an exchange?

                      I'm taking bets left and right with this. Anybody wants to bet on Juanma, come and get them! I'll give you 2 to 1 odds. PM me!

                      I'd like Juanma to win but I really don't see it happening.
                      Don't bother, froghead and Medved are just trolls. All they do is post ****** **** all day and false information.

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