Watching BHOP on ESPN, he said his best career win was Trinidad. Agree?

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  • LaMigra
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    #21
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    Interesting when you consider Tito was a middleweight title holder when hopkins beat him, a 7-1 favorite and 40-0.
    So is Cotto, but it doesn't mean he is a true middleweight. It also does not change the fact that Tito was a welterweight and that Hopkins fought at 175lbs prior to moving down to Middleweight.


    Again: Hopkins... why not Calzaghe?

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      #22
      Originally posted by LaMigra
      So is Cotto, but it doesn't mean he is a true middleweight. It also does not change the fact that Tito was a welterweight and that Hopkins fought at 175lbs prior to moving down to Middleweight.


      Again: Hopkins... why not Calzaghe?
      So is Cotto? So is Cotto what?

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        #23
        Originally posted by LaMigra
        So is Cotto, but it doesn't mean he is a true middleweight. It also does not change the fact that Tito was a welterweight and that Hopkins fought at 175lbs prior to moving down to Middleweight.


        Again: Hopkins... why not Calzaghe?
        Cotto fights a 154 which is JR MIDDLE WEIGHT. lol

        and many fighters fight at a heavy weight and move down. Hopkins first 2 fights was around the super middleweight LHW limit BUT WAS never rated in those weights at the time. But then he was at 160 for 15 years. SO HOW COULD A 175 lber make 160 for 15 YEARS????? maybe because he was middleweight

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          #24
          Originally posted by LaMigra
          So is Cotto, but it doesn't mean he is a true middleweight. It also does not change the fact that Tito was a welterweight and that Hopkins fought at 175lbs prior to moving down to Middleweight.
          Hopkins fought at 175 in 1988 fresh out of prison. Lost, got into a real gym, trained and got into real boxing shape.

          The cotto comparison is cute but Tito wasn't brutally KO'd by a Mexican and brutally beat for 12 rounds by a Filipino and at the tail end of his career. Tito was 40-0, 27 years old, a MW title holder and a pound 4 pound fighter. I don't see cotto on the top 10 p4p list do you?


          Again: Hopkins... why not Calzaghe?
          What about Calzaghe??

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            #25
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            So is Cotto? So is Cotto what?
            Cotto being a "champ" at 54... Doesn't mean he is a true Jr. Middle nor that he is at his best weight etc.

            Tito blazed through 147 and went up seeking competition. It does not mean by any stretch, that Hopkins beat a true middleweight.

            It's revealing that his best win is Tito...


            Again:


            Why not Calzaghe?

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              #26
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Hopkins fought at 175 in 1988 fresh out of prison. Lost, got into a real gym, trained and got into real boxing shape.

              The cotto comparison is cute but Tito wasn't brutally KO'd by a Mexican and brutally beat for 12 rounds by a Filipino and at the tail end of his career. Tito was 40-0, 27 years old, a MW title holder and a pound 4 pound fighter. I don't see cotto on the top 10 p4p list do you?




              What about Calzaghe??
              You seem confused.

              Why is Calzaghe not Hopkins "best win?"




              Because he LOST.


              My point again: The fact that a welter named Tito is his best win is actually kinda sad.

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                #27
                Originally posted by LaMigra
                Cotto being a "champ" at 54... Doesn't mean he is a true Jr. Middle nor that he is at his best weight etc.

                Tito blazed through 147 and went up seeking competition. It does not mean by any stretch, that Hopkins beat a true middleweight.

                It's revealing that his best win is Tito...


                Again:


                Why not Calzaghe?
                I was ringside for this fight. The electricity in the crowd was amazing. There was maybe 250 people there cheering for BHop and the Garden was filled. When Tito fell you could hear a rat piss on cotton. I can see why he felt it was his greatest victory.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  Hopkins fought at 175 in 1988 fresh out of prison. Lost, got into a real gym, trained and got into real boxing shape.

                  The cotto comparison is cute but Tito wasn't brutally KO'd by a Mexican and brutally beat for 12 rounds by a Filipino and at the tail end of his career. Tito was 40-0, 27 years old, a MW title holder and a pound 4 pound fighter. I don't see cotto on the top 10 p4p list do you?




                  What about Calzaghe??
                  So now you are trying to make Hopkins look good by pretending that Tito was a bonafide middleweight? 13lbs above his best weight?

                  You are not being sincere. You are merely trying to support your man.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LaMigra
                    You seem confused.

                    Why is Calzaghe not Hopkins "best win?"




                    Because he LOST.


                    My point again: The fact that a welter named Tito is his best win is actually kinda sad.
                    Hopkins should of beat calzaghe or got at least a draw at worst. he knocked him down the fight round and there is no way Calzaghe won 7 of the last 11 rounds. was a close fight. but Hopkins got it to me. But Calzaghe retired without giving Hopkins his rematch. And Hopkins deserved one because the fight was close.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      I was ringside for this fight. The electricity in the crowd was amazing. There was maybe 250 people there cheering for BHop and the Garden was filled. When Tito fell you could hear a rat piss on cotton. I can see why he felt it was his greatest victory.
                      From an emotional perspective perhaps... But I am talking about the fact that Tito was a welterweight king. He may have moved up to test himself etc, but by no means should this be Hopkins "greatest win."

                      He should have been able to say "Calzaghe was my best win." But he cannot... And THAT is my point.

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