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This round with Manny Pacquiao shows us what to expect against Mayweather

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  • #41
    Most Pacquiao fans do not understand the concept of boxing, the hit and dont get hit style, AKA The Sweet Science. They only see power. They dont really understand true skill. When Pacquiao is up against a skill fighter he gets beat. Even against Cotto he got out boxed. Pacquiao is not a thinking fighter, he throws punches with no destination, and he throws them in 3-4 and 5s. This will get you koed against a sharp counter puncher. Why do you think Pacquiao stop throwing combos in that round against Moesly. He was trying not to get hit clean, so he started trying to think which is not his strong side. Once Pacquiao begin to think he becomes easier to hit because hes not that type of fighter. Hes a brawler reguardless of what you say. Just look at him against thinkers, you can clearly see hes over his head come the Mayweather fight.

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    • #42
      nahh. i'm not making any prediction until floyd mans up and finds balls to fight the pacman. when a fighter himself is reluctant to get in the ring chances are such fighter will get murdered in the fight, and it just means that no amount of predictions will make any sense.

      i'm just saying you guys need to stop throwing roadblocks in this fight and encourage your hero to fight and that he can beat the pacman without being a pu55y.

      Last edited by tomhawq; 08-07-2011, 12:50 PM.

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      • #43
        Lol Mosley actually had an effective jab in that round.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View Post
          Most Pacquiao fans do not understand the concept of boxing, the hit and dont get hit style, AKA The Sweet Science. They only see power. They dont really understand true skill. When Pacquiao is up against a skill fighter he gets beat. Even against Cotto he got out boxed. Pacquiao is not a thinking fighter, he throws punches with no destination, and he throws them in 3-4 and 5s. This will get you koed against a sharp counter puncher. Why do you think Pacquiao stop throwing combos in that round against Moesly. He was trying not to get hit clean, so he started trying to think which is not his strong side. Once Pacquiao begin to think he becomes easier to hit because hes not that type of fighter. Hes a brawler reguardless of what you say. Just look at him against thinkers, you can clearly see hes over his head come the Mayweather fight.

          "That's a pathetic excuses. Pacroid just can't make up his mind. One minute he lost because of "Clitoris Gloves" the next minute the lost because he "had blisters on his feet" and the next minute he lost because of "blood testing". It's just pathetic excuses. People say Pacquiao is humble but he refused to give Morales any credit for beating him and just made pathetic excuses instead. That's the behavior of a LOSER, not a humble person."

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          • #45
            you guys are going too hard on Manny. I understand that bouncing around isn't good, that's my main complaint with Devon Alexander but at least in Pacquiao's case he has the physical atributes like speed and power to be able to do bounce around and get away with it.

            what saves Manny is when he punches from those awkward angles, it's when he barrages his opponents with shots they don't see and whether he's bouncing or not the way he releases his hands is so unorthodox that it will cause slight hesitation in anyone even Mayweather because lets remember these are just men, Mayweather and Pacquiao are just men and they too are succeptable to the same things other fighters are, make no mistake Mayweather will have to adjust against Manny and he can't be ****y he better be on point

            when Shane caught Floyd Floyd had the benefit of seeing the punch coming, maybe in a split second but he at least saw it and was able to brace himself. against Manny that is harder to do because while yes Manny makes a lot of mistakes his real way to win a fight is to out throw you, to force you back. it will be hard to time Manny because he has enough power so that you you can't really allow him to hit you that many times and with him it's punch after punch after punch after punch after punchand just 1 of those blows can really hurt you

            Manny is so unorthodox that in a way the bouncing around only adds to it, he's hard to figure out. also if you pay attention his bouncing around is more like leaping in and out, that's not something easy to prepare for. Devon and Shawn both bounce around but they just literally bounce around for no reason at times, expending too much of their own energy but Pacquiao's case is different because of his punch arsenal

            you guys KNOW that I pick Floyd Mayweather to win the fight, you don't know me if you don't know that but I'm not a naive person, I understand that it wont be a fraction as eay as some of you say it will be. Manny is a great fighter, appreciate him while he is here because when he's gone there wont be too many who can replace him, same with Floyd. Manny is deserving of more respect, he WILL take the tests soon enough believe that, I don't think Manny was ever the problem though I think it had more to do with Top Rank

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            • #46
              Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View Post
              Most Pacquiao fans do not understand the concept of boxing, the hit and dont get hit style, AKA The Sweet Science. They only see power. They dont really understand true skill. When Pacquiao is up against a skill fighter he gets beat. Even against Cotto he got out boxed. Pacquiao is not a thinking fighter, he throws punches with no destination, and he throws them in 3-4 and 5s. This will get you koed against a sharp counter puncher. Why do you think Pacquiao stop throwing combos in that round against Moesly. He was trying not to get hit clean, so he started trying to think which is not his strong side. Once Pacquiao begin to think he becomes easier to hit because hes not that type of fighter. Hes a brawler reguardless of what you say. Just look at him against thinkers, you can clearly see hes over his head come the Mayweather fight.

              Pacquiao has not made any improvements in his skill level. He has been fighting bigger fighters. He seems to have develope the abilty to take a punch over night, most believe its due to PEDS use.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by crillz View Post
                you guys are going too hard on Manny. I understand that bouncing around isn't good, that's my main complaint with Devon Alexander but at least in Pacquiao's case he has the physical atributes like speed and power to be able to do bounce around and get away with it.

                what saves Manny is when he punches from those awkward angles, it's when he barrages his opponents with shots they don't see and whether he's bouncing or not the way he releases his hands is so unorthodox that it will cause slight hesitation in anyone even Mayweather because lets remember these are just men, Mayweather and Pacquiao are just men and they too are succeptable to the same things other fighters are, make no mistake Mayweather will have to adjust against Manny and he can't be ****y he better be on point

                when Shane caught Floyd Floyd had the benefit of seeing the punch coming, maybe in a split second but he at least saw it and was able to brace himself. against Manny that is harder to do because while yes Manny makes a lot of mistakes his real way to win a fight is to out throw you, to force you back. it will be hard to time Manny because he has enough power so that you you can't really allow him to hit you that many times and with him it's punch after punch after punch after punch after punchand just 1 of those blows can really hurt you

                Manny is so unorthodox that in a way the bouncing around only adds to it, he's hard to figure out. also if you pay attention his bouncing around is more like leaping in and out, that's not something easy to prepare for. Devon and Shawn both bounce around but they just literally bounce around for no reason at times, expending too much of their own energy but Pacquiao's case is different because of his punch arsenal

                you guys KNOW that I pick Floyd Mayweather to win the fight, you don't know me if you don't know that but I'm not a naive person, I understand that it wont be a fraction as eay as some of you say it will be. Manny is a great fighter, appreciate him while he is here because when he's gone there wont be too many who can replace him, same with Floyd. Manny is deserving of more respect, he WILL take the tests soon enough believe that, I don't think Manny was ever the problem though I think it had more to do with Top Rank
                DUDE you really don't know ***** bout boxing, do you! lol , just stop and go bed,lol you sound ******ed,lol

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                • #48
                  Then how come Mayweather's asking for OST? Is Floyd really scared?

                  Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View Post
                    DUDE you really don't know ***** bout boxing, do you! lol , just stop and go bed,lol you sound ******ed,lol
                    Crillz is on your side dude :laugh:
                    don't you know who's for Floyd and who's not around here?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                      It was his legs, they were stiff. But they were lose enough to bounce around like an amateur fighter for 12 rounds. Stiff my ass.

                      Who was that said, that bouncing around is an amateur move? I think it was Teddy Atlas? Because when you're bouncing around, a good boxer can time you, because to throw a punch, you have to stop bouncing. I believe this was critique on Shawn Porter, because he bounces a lot, like Pacquiao.

                      Notice when Many's gonna throw, he stops bouncing. I don't know who he's trying to impress with that bounce, he thinks he's Jean Claude Van Dam or some ninja. You saw how Marquez caught him bouncing in the air in their rematch, that's what happens when you do little amateur stunts like that against good counterpunchers. Wait till Mayweather gets a hold of that jumping amateur. It can work against come forward fighters with limited skills, but against a skillful fighter like Marquez 126-135, or Floyd at 147, that will just get you caught in ***** street.

                      Amen, bro. He was still doing his usual bounces. Only difference is, Mosley wasn't a stationary target, so therefore he couldn't moved in and out with his usual combos.

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