Who Has The Greater Shoulder Roll, Toney Or Mayweather Jr?

[Larry the boss]

No it wasn't genius. It was one of the dumbest things anyone could have done, but it worked. He damn near got himself killed doing that.

I'm not even going to touch on the Floyd thing...I doubt you have watched more than 15 boxing matches in your life. 0 that don't involve Pacquiao or Donaire.

it was genuis and he wasnt damn near killed he wasnt even hurt in that fight and it wasnt even close

[intoccabile]

floyds shoulder roll is better based on the fact that hes more athletic and able to turn his body quicker

Toney actually used his more athletically. He didn't just stand straight up and roll.. he was leaning forward, backward, under, over.. he did everything with it.

He rolled from several angles.

[Haglerwins]

bs

he doesnt adjust- hes the john cena of boxing

he has his 4 moves of doom

1. he always starts slow
2. midde rounds he starts throwing straight rights
3. occasional stance switch

he certainly cant adjust to an agressive knockout boxer

the bs this site comes up with.... like just because he throws right straights he suddenly has adjusted

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ali's adjustments were light years ahead- it became overused but rope-a-dope was genius when he did it against foreman

You're a moron.

I'll give you the most recent glaring example. Shane Mosley.

Want to know why you saw Floyd get nailed with a straight right only that one-time flush that had him in trouble in round 2?

Because Floyd took it away after. Sugar set that up with a jab to the body. It never worked again after that.

Floyd corrects in minutes what all the fighters he's been in the ring with don't figure out until they're in some rematch.

That gives Jr. an edge over everyone he fights.

[jvsnypes]

This is a hard one. Both guys make you miss with the shoulder roll, but Toney makes you pay when you miss. i think floyd would have more KO's if he countered off of it.When Toney was at his best at middleweight, I don't know if I've ever saw a more complete fighter.

[fragilety]

close. Ill give it to Toney just because even though Floyd's is probably better since he's more athletic so he can turn more. However, I think Floyd has the better overall defense because Toney can only do that when Floyd can use alot of different styles & defenses

UM, James could do a hell of alot moe than that..

[EdMon917]

I think Floyd's is a bit better, guy is too hard to hit.