Who Has The Greater Shoulder Roll, Toney Or Mayweather Jr?

[gatorDelux]

IDK but when mora said that u gotta give toney credit for that counter right....

i think he forgot about archie moore.

[Larry the boss]

Depends if your talking about best Offensive Shoulder roll then I would say Toney cause he always wanted to counter whether its a straight right or right uppercut.

Now best Defensive Shoulder roll would go to Floyd even though he does counter but not as much as Toney done in his career and with Floyd he mostly rolls it and bring his right guard to block a left hook.

^^^i can agree with this

[Guest]

floyds shoulder roll is better based on the fact that hes more athletic and able to turn his body quicker

[Kagami Taiga]

toneys shoulder roll is better simply because he counters much better with it. ive always thought toney had the better shoulder roll. with that said, floyd does a whole whole lot more on defense that just his shoulder roll, which tends to make him the better overall defensive fighter.

[Haglerwins]

floyd is the jack of all trades master of none

he's good at everything
he even has good power

what he doesn't have is an exceptional ability someone else doesnt have

EXAMPLE

no one since tyson hits as hard and fast with combos like pacquiao

however- floyd also has no weaknesses

False. Floyd's unmatched at on the fly adjustments.

[tennis-legend]

bs

he doesnt adjust- hes the john cena of boxing

he has his 4 moves of doom

1. he always starts slow
2. midde rounds he starts throwing straight rights
3. occasional stance switch

he certainly cant adjust to an agressive knockout boxer

the bs this site comes up with.... like just because he throws right straights he suddenly has adjusted

******

ali's adjustments were light years ahead- it became overused but rope-a-dope was genius when he did it against foreman

[ShoulderRoll]

I'll say one thing for Floyd. You'll never ever see him get hit as many times as Toney got hit against Jirov.

[Everywhere]

bs

he doesnt adjust- hes the john cena of boxing

he has his 4 moves of doom

1. he always starts slow
2. midde rounds he starts throwing straight rights
3. occasional stance switch

he certainly cant adjust to an agressive knockout boxer

the bs this site comes up with.... like just because he throws right straights he suddenly has adjusted

******

ali's adjustments were light years ahead- it became overused but rope-a-dope was genius when he did it against foreman

No it wasn't genius. It was one of the dumbest things anyone could have done, but it worked. He damn near got himself killed doing that.

I'm not even going to touch on the Floyd thing...I doubt you have watched more than 15 boxing matches in your life. 0 that don't involve Pacquiao or Donaire.

[tennis-legend]

if he didnt do it foreman would have killed him anyway

and it took real skill to pull it off

[Carpe Diem]

Miguel Cotto. lol