I've had time to think... I've lost a lot of respect for Jose Luis Castillo

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

He had no intentions of making the weight, he just wanted to win... Regardless of the rules:

• His camp even tried to disrupt the proceedings...

• The weight difference made a BIG difference... Whilst Castillo was training hard, Corrales was making weight loss preperations.

• So Corrales weighed in on the night 2lbs heavier than Castillo on the night?... Corrales extra weight was fluid gain as opposed to solid muscle.

• The Castillo camp knew that this fight wouldn't be called off at that late stage because of the money involved!

• That Castillo camp did this knowing that they wouldn't win the belts, but also that Castillo would never fight at 135lbs again anyway, and a win here was the perfect way to set up a big money fight at 140lbs!

I will say that Corrales had a bad game plan anyway, and probably would have lost... But that's irrelivant... What's important here is that - Castillo played the system, and got away with it!

Who's to say that others won't try these kind of tricks in the future when big money's involved?


Before the mexican fans jump on me... I will add that I don't compare "not making the weight" to in-fight tactics like the mouthpiece, a lowblow, or leading with the head. The weight issue can get people hurt or killed!

[Slipx]

The weight issue can get people hurt or killed!

what hatton does is much worse than what castillo did in terms of hurting your opponent.

hatton puts on what 15 pounds after the weigh in?????? he's a cotto

if anything castillo is smart and deserves credit for playing a system that ****ed him when he fought floyd mayweather.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

what hatton does is much worse than what castillo did in terms of hurting your opponent.

hatton puts on what 15 pounds after the weigh in?????? he's a cotto

if anything castillo is smart and deserves credit for playing a system that ****ed him when he fought floyd mayweather.

If you think that way then I can't believe you're a proper boxing fan... There are rules, and everyone has to stick to the rules... Our Hero's and Ancestors of the past have always stuck to the rules... and Nothing changes here.

You HAVE to make the weight" [period]

[Slipx]

If you think that way then I can't believe you're a proper boxing fan... There are rules, and everyone has to stick to the rules... Our Hero's and Ancestors of the past have always stuck to the rules... and Nothing changes here.

You HAVE to make the weight" [period]

You're dodging the point I made, Martin...

You were concerned about the fighter's health the most in your first post...you basically said,before I get flamed by mexicans, screw the rules, it's all about the health.."The weight issue can get people hurt or killed!" I think was your exact quote..

then I called your boy Hatton on him always coming in much heavier than his opponent, and since you're a Hatton fanboi you pretend you didn't hear that and now bicker about the rules? stfu plz.

[Bombardier]

I just want people to acknowledge that the result of this fight was tainted by what happened. Even if they still say "I'm glad Corrales got KTFO anyway." I don't know how much a difference it made (though it probably made some) but the fact is that Castillo not making weight through the whole event in the ****ter.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

I think it is crazy to ***** about Castillo's weight when Corrales spit out a mouthpiece two times in their first fight to give himself additional time to recover. Corrales lost the second fight becasue he was an idiot, he ran right to Castillo at the sound of the bell and went toe to toe with him when Castillo has the much better chin and hits just as hard.

[Bombardier]

I think it is crazy to ***** about Castillo's weight when Corrales spit out a mouthpiece two times in their first fight to give himself additional time to recover. Corrales lost the second fight becasue he was an idiot, he ran right to Castillo at the sound of the bell and went toe to toe with him when Castillo has the much better chin and hits just as hard.

So what does it prove? That Castillo is the king of the "Special Feature Attractions" or whatever the hell this was called? The thing is that if I'm Corrales and my titles aren't on the line and a loss here will guarantee me another several million dollars in a third fight then what do I care if I lose this one?

I'm not saying that Corrales didn't try or anything. But we all know that mind games play into every single fight. And Corrales incentive to win this match went down to next to nothing? Or do you beleive that "warrior ethic" junk?

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

You're dodging the point I made, Martin...

You were concerned about the fighter's health the most in your first post...you basically said,before I get flamed by mexicans, screw the rules, it's all about the health.."The weight issue can get people hurt or killed!" I think was your exact quote..

then I called your boy Hatton on him always coming in much heavier than his opponent, and since you're a Hatton fanboi you pretend you didn't hear that and now bicker about the rules? stfu plz.

I never said "Screw the rules" read it again... I don't agree with things like - leading with the head, spitting mouth pieces out etc, etc, but they are nowhere near as dangerous as playing weight making games.

Hatton may walk into the ring at 153lbs the day after making the 140lb limit, but that's well within the rules... And the other fighter is doing exactly the same thing.

I think you're missing the point... Castillo didn't make the weight, and that gives him a larger advantage than people realise, because making the weight is all part of boxing preperation and it does handicap a fighter some what... But it's fair if the other fighter is doing exactly the same thing.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I think it is crazy to ***** about Castillo's weight when Corrales spit out a mouthpiece two times in their first fight to give himself additional time to recover. Corrales lost the second fight becasue he was an idiot, he ran right to Castillo at the sound of the bell and went toe to toe with him when Castillo has the much better chin and hits just as hard.

I don't want to get into a whole "Corrales spat the mouth piece out so fair is fair".

In my eyes, what Castillo has done has opened the door to this kind of thing happening again.

Taking a fight that a fighter knows he can't make the weight for, but doing anyway so that it'll help further his career in a higher weight division. The money involved with that fight inssured that the fight was going to happen regardless.

What Castillo did was far worse than what Corrales did (spitting the mouth piece out).

[Manny_P]

IMO, I'm gonna side wit Martin hurrr. I mean most he said are pretty much facts anyways. Castillo did say BEFO pre Corrales vs Castillo 1, that he intend to move up to 140lbs if he beats Corrales, well......there goes ta weight issue fo ya. Came in at 137-138lbs while Corrales busted his ass to make weight.

And yes, Corrales suffered becuz he was kinda FORCED to fight eventhough there was a violation of ta rules hurrr. He paid ta price in ta ring.

And Martin was smart to point out ta belts issue. I din't see that at all. Shyyyyyt, so no wonder Castillo don't care bout ta belts. He could find a title holder at 140lbs in his next fight anyways.


What a chump! I really want Castillo to find sumone that truly KO him in 140lbs division. I think Hatton has a betta chance than Cotto to do it, but I bet both of em beats Castillo, JEST DIFFERENT WAYS in accomplishing it.