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  • thuggin_yo
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    #171
    Originally posted by LeadUppercut

    So, the JMM fight was " pretty much done BEFORE Pac fought Shane ", huh ?
    Article published April 28, 2011 (over a week BEFORE Pacquiao-Mosley)...JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ OFFERED $5 MILLION TO FIGHT MANNY, FIGHT MOVED TO NOVEMBER Link: http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...ed-to-november P.S. My links actually work, nigg*a!! UNLIKE your links lol

    Ummm..what purse did Marquez agree to a couple days after Pac-Mosley?? Answer: $5 million!!!! YOU MORON!!!

    So LeadUppercut....Are you gonna PUBLISH your Pacquiao-Hate articles using your real name OR are you a COWARD??? Yea...i thought so!

    Originally posted by thuggin_yo

    Anyone that says this much smack about a person and claim it as "fact" is obviously threatened and scared!! Why else would u say all this **** and hide behind a screen name? If you had balls, you'd PUBLISH this garbage on a known site or blog and give your real name, instead of a message board!!

    Anyone that says Floyd is scared of Pac should just read LeadUpper****'s Pac-Hate Manifesto!!! NOW THAT'S A SCARED MAN!!
    Last edited by thuggin_yo; 08-10-2011, 06:45 PM.

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    • tangalog2200
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      #172
      Originally posted by The Noose
      Is this true?

      Ive never heard of it before. Sources?


      I know many people thought Ortiz was too green for Pac after he beat Berto, which surprised me.
      you asked lead about the sources?

      was it satisfactorily answered?

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      • LeadUppercut
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        #173
        Originally posted by Gutz
        Clottley and Hatton are better then Ortiz..
        What a fkn dumb-arse.

        You dopey idiot kid

        Cotto.....

        Miguel Cotto.....

        When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.

        Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.

        Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.

        Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....

        "I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.

        But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.

        Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker.
        "

        Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for 27%..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.

        A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame

        Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, 27% demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.

        But even that was not enough for 27%, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
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        Catch-weights.....

        There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

        1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight

        2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage

        Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

        The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

        Shame on 27% for cheating history, not once, but twice, because he did the same thing to Margarito..... Emmanuel Steward was correct when he said that Pacquiao is a cherry-picker who does not compare with truly great fighters.

        What a lame b1tch that 27% kid turned out to be

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        • LeadUppercut
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          #174
          Originally posted by thuggin_yo
          Article published April 28, 2011 (over a week BEFORE Pacquiao-Mosley)... JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ OFFERED $5 MILLION TO FIGHT MANNY, FIGHT MOVED TO NOVEMBER Link: http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...ed-to-november P.S. My links actually work, nigg*a!! UNLIKE your links lol

          Ummm..what purse did Marquez agree to a couple days after Pac-Mosley?? Answer: $5 million!!!! YOU MORON!!!

          So LeadUppercut....Are you gonna PUBLISH your Pacquiao-Hate articles using your real name OR are you a COWARD??? Yea...i thought so!
          Stop whining at me ***go7.

          You are nothing but a pig-ignorant, non-boxing, fanboy, b1tch

          I dont give a **** when Pacquiao signed to fight Marquez you dumb ****.

          FACT: Victor Ortiz was available on 16th April 2011, and Pacquiao ducked him like a b1tch, just like he ducked Mosley, and just like he ducked Marquez until he managed to catch him at a disadvantage on the scales.

          What a joke you clowns are.

          You fkn ******s, a catch-weight is where both fighters meet at middle ground, in order to even up the fight.

          Pacquiao " conceded " a weight that he has never actually made himself

          " middle ground " to Pacquiao, is when you demand a higher weight than you ever actually made yourself, one which YOU KNOW disadvantages your opponent.

          " middle ground " would be 140, coincidentally, Mannys best weight.

          But " no way, we cannot risk the possibility that Marquez could enter the ring at a weight at which he might still be dangerous, lets take no chances and rip him right out of his comfort zone, because you will still be ok at 145 Manny ".

          If my boy ever pulled any cowardly **** like that, I would roast him alive.

          Only ******ed pac-**** could consider that fight anything more than a pointless exhibition match.

          You ridiculous clowns are a joke

          signed.....
          ~ James "Jim" Taylor

          Go *** yourself clown. You would p1ss yourself if you attempted to talk to me like that in real life kid, so go drown yourself

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          • LeadUppercut
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            #175
            You are a fkn idiot Gutz, that comment is sig-worthy you fool

            Originally Posted by Gutz

            " Clottey and Hatton are better then Ortiz "

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            • thuggin_yo
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              #176
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut

              FACT: Victor Ortiz was available on 16th April 2011, and Pacquiao ducked him like a b1tch, just like he ducked Mosley, and just like he ducked Marquez until he managed to catch him at a disadvantage on the scales.
              That reply only displays how DESPERATE you are, dawg!!!

              The only FACT that remains is that YOU DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO PUBLISH YOUR LONG LIST OF "FACTS" ABOUT PACQUIAO ON A LEGIT SITE OR BLOG UNDER YOUR REAL NAME!!

              Instead, you post it on a message board like a b1tch! You ****in loser!!!

              Originally posted by thuggin_yo

              Anyone that says this much smack about a person (Pacquiao) and claim it as "fact" is obviously threatened and scared!! Why else would u say all this **** and hide behind a screen name? If you had balls, you'd PUBLISH this garbage on a known site or blog and give your real name, instead of a message board!!

              Anyone that says Floyd is scared of Pac should just read LeadUpper****'s Pac-Hate Manifesto!!! NOW THAT'S A SCARED MAN!!

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              • Bull24
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                #177
                LOL at the fool trying to make Ortiz into a world beater because he beat Berto and is Maysweater's next opponent. Maysweater picked him because he is beatable. Because he is the easiest money opponent. Typical Maysweater.

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                • Gutz
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  You are a fkn idiot Gutz, that comment is sig-worthy you fool

                  Originally Posted by Gutz

                  " Clottey and Hatton are better then Ortiz "


                  LOL dumb shiet Leadupper****..



                  Clottley and Hatton are better then Ortiz... Thanks for the sig...

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                  • skillswin
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                    #179
                    Koncz: "I was one that postponed this fight, or suggested to manny that we hold off on this fight for awhile (3 years @144 LOL) because there's the old saying that styles make fights, but then also styles break fights. My opinion, for some reason (Marquez is a smart counter puncher) Marquez has manny figured out"




                    ******: "I was one that postponed this fight, or suggested to manny that we hold off on this fight for awhile because we can't cheat USADA , but then also styles break fights. My opinion, for some reason Floyd is better faster bigger smartest boxer than marquez"


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                    Last edited by skillswin; 08-10-2011, 07:32 PM.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by thuggin_yo
                      That reply only displays how DESPERATE you are, dawg!!!

                      The only FACT that remains is that YOU DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO PUBLISH YOUR LONG LIST OF "FACTS" ABOUT PACQUIAO ON A LEGIT SITE OR BLOG UNDER YOUR REAL NAME!!

                      Instead, you post it on a message board like a b1tch! You ****in loser!!!
                      Stop being such a childish whiney b1tch, you dumb ****.

                      1.) Message boards are anonymous, deal with it, or *** off, you ***go7

                      2.) I posted my name ****

                      3.) I would love to discuss this with you personally, ****

                      4.) Stop whining to me you b1tch, and answer my questions.....


                      1.) If Mayweathers OSDT request was just a bluff to duck Pacquiao, then why didnt Pac simply call Mayweathers " bluff ", take a harmless little blood test, DESTROY the steroid accusations, and collect his career-best payday..... just like Mosley did, just like Ortiz did, and just like any other clean athlete would ?

                      2.) which one of Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

                      3.) if Pac had accepted the very same deal back in Dec 2009 that he recently stated he will accept NOW, then there would be no need whatsoever for a lawsuit..... so how can you possibly blame Mayweather?

                      4.) why did Pacquiao not initiate legal action against Malinaggi and Cintron, who both made far worse statements than Mayweather?

                      5.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA back in Dec 2009?

                      6.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA about 5 months ago when he publicly agreed to FULL testing?

                      7.) why did Pacquiao require a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, requiring 8 different excuses means that none of them are genuine?

                      8.) Based on the questions above, is it not plainly obvious that Pacquiao has been ducking Mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked Marquez for 3 years.....


                      9.) Are you still upset that Michael Koncz cant keep his big mouth shut and admitted that Pacquiao is a ch1cken-**** b1tch who ducked Juan Manuel Marquez for three years?

                      BTW, again..... see the difference in how I respond to intelligent respectful posters, as opposed to how I respond to pig-ignorant whiney kids?

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