In A World Where Ali Never Existed...

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  • tennis-legend
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    #11
    a foreman raping frasier trilogy maybe

    without ali foreman would have dominated the HW division untill 1992ish

    and still been a contender afterwards

    foreman would be seen as the greatest of all time

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    • edgarg
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      #12
      Originally posted by ablindwatchmakr
      Random thread, but cool.

      He was unique. The sport wouldn't be the same without him. I mean, this guy was fighting during the civil rights movement and was an icon of rebellion for many all over the country--still is. He defined the generation and carried the torch of Joe Louis as an American icon, albeit one of rebellion. He immortalized boxing as an an integral part of American culture.

      Would Leonard have ever become as popular as he did?
      An "icon for rebellion"....just what we need. This posturing, illiterate loudmouth was not fit to shine Joe Louis' shoes, either as a boxer, an example to ALL Americans and as a public icon. As was said about him. he was "a credit to his race...the human race".

      It's not surprising that Joe frazier, as decent a man as ever was born, has not forgiven Ali to this day. And neither should any other anti-racist anti-cultist.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ablindwatchmakr
        Random thread, but cool.

        He was unique. The sport wouldn't be the same without him. I mean, this guy was fighting during the civil rights movement and was an icon of rebellion for many all over the country--still is. He defined the generation and carried the torch of Joe Louis as an American icon, albeit one of rebellion. He immortalized boxing as an an integral part of American culture.

        Would Leonard have ever become as popular as he did?
        An "icon for rebellion"....just what we need. This posturing, illiterate loudmouth was not fit to shine Joe Louis' shoes, either as a boxer, an example to ALL Americans and as a public icon. As was said about him. he was "a credit to his race...the human race".

        It's not surprising that Joe Frazier, as decent a man as ever was born, has not forgiven Ali to this day. And neither should any other anti-racist anti-cultist.

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        • jas
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          #14
          Ali is a fixed pillar in boxing. His name will forever be etched into the pages of boxing history.

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          • Jcsuper
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            #15
            Ali is a legend. Greatest boxer ever (yeah I put him ahead of SRR). His win against Foreman is the greatest win in boxing history. Without him, I imagine that Foreman would have dominated to HW division for 25 years and would be seen as the greatest hw ever

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #16
              If Ali went to Vietnam, the US would have won easily

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              • soul_survivor
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                #17
                Originally posted by ablindwatchmakr
                Joe Louis was a better man, and he was a better role model.
                why? Because Ali refused to travel 3000 miles to kill innocent women and children?

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                • RigoFTW
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                  #18
                  professional athletes would be earning less money

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