Reasons you think Ali would beat Wlad.

[Sadistic]

Ali never fought anyone like Wlad.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

Ali can't outsmart Wlad.

Ali can't outbox Wlad.

Stylistically, Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

Wlad by UD or late KO.

[Spray_resistant]

Are you then saying that Joe Louis would beat Wlad because he beat Primo carnera, who had the same build as wlad....

Your nuthugging for Wlad has reached epic levels now.....Byrd, Chambers etc....do absolutely NOTHING better than Ali.....if so, please name em' thanks...

I mean hey, lets compare Khan and Mayweather as the same fighter seen as they both have tremendous speed...

No I am not saying that at all

I never said they did anything better than Ali

Sure we could compare Khan and Floyd when talking about another fighter and how he has handled one or the others speed, its not that much of a reach and is done all of the time

are any of those smaller fighters even hall of famers??? we're talking about Ali here the best heavy weight ever based on resume and skills fought in the best era of heavyweights..he aint no damn chris byrd

Who cares if they are HOF or whatever ppl think they are now that they are gone it has nothing to do with H2H FF matches, I am talking about attributes and what the two men have brought to the table. Speed has never been anyone's solution that translates to a win against Wlad, so what else do we have?

[-KPB-]

No I am not saying that at all

I never said they did anything better than Ali

Sure we could compare Khan and Floyd when talking about another fighter and how he has handled one or the others speed, its not that much of a reach and is done all of the time




Who cares if they are HOF or whatever ppl think they are now that they are gone it has nothing to do with H2H FF matches, I am talking about attributes and what the two men have brought to the table. Speed has never been anyone's solution that translates to a win against Wlad, so what else do we have?

You make it seem as though the only thing Ali had was speed, which is a terrible opinion to hold.....Ali has good footwork, and is the best counterpuncher in heavyweight history...none of those fighters you mentioneded has those attributes...

[Spray_resistant]

You make it seem as though the only thing Ali had was speed, which is a terrible opinion to hold.....Ali has good footwork, and is the best counterpuncher in heavyweight history...none of those fighters you mentioneded has those attributes...

Yes he did have good footwork which would make it hard for Wlad to land but may not necessarily help him land damaging shots on Wlad himself. As for his countering ability, Wlad is not so easy to hit these days even when fighting smaller quicker more mobile opponents, even if you think those fighters are not good those are the examples we have and what I have to go on.

I am not saying Wlad destroys him 10 of 10 every time, I actually envision a borefest where both men are cautious and trying work off their jabs but for ppl to act like Ali would just walk in there and smash Wlad in 3-4 rounds like I have read on here makes them seem irrational and like they just repeat what they hear without thinking for themselves.

[-Lucas-]

Yes he did have good footwork which would make it hard for Wlad to land but may not necessarily help him land damaging shots on Wlad himself. As for his countering ability, Wlad is not so easy to hit these days even when fighting smaller quicker more mobile opponents, even if you think those fighters are not good those are the examples we have and what I have to go on.

I am not saying Wlad destroys him 10 of 10 every time, I actually envision a borefest where both men are cautious and trying work off their jabs but for ppl to act like Ali would just walk in there and smash Wlad in 3-4 rounds like I have read on here makes them seem irrational and like they just repeat what they hear without thinking for themselves.

But didnt Corrie Sanders do it, or was Wlad not prime at that point.....

But equally, comparing Ali to Chambers, Byrd, Haye means that you are SEVERELY UNDERRATING Ali, dont you think.....

I still dont think you can come up with one thing that Haye, Byrd, Chambers do that is better than Ali

[texasboi15]

like the poster above just stated...corrie sanders. that alone should be the reason.

[Spray_resistant]

But didnt Corrie Sanders do it, or was Wlad not prime at that point.....

But equally, comparing Ali to Chambers, Byrd, Haye means that you are SEVERELY UNDERRATING Ali, dont you think.....

I still dont think you can come up with one thing that Haye, Byrd, Chambers do that is better than Ali

Well certainly you agree he is much better now, I would say he a totally different fighter. Also since when is Ali this huge puncher?

I didn't compare him to Chambers, Byrd or Haye I am using them as examples of how a speed disadvantage for Wlad like he would have against Ali has not aided any fighters in a victory against him.

Like I said I never said they did do anything better than him, but its not relevant what is would be that no one has beaten Wlad in the manner we would assume Ali would attempt to, so why is it so inconceivable that he might not be able to?

[-Lucas-]

Well certainly you agree he is much better now, I would say he a totally different fighter. Also since when is Ali this huge puncher?

I didn't compare him to Chambers, Byrd or Haye I am using them as examples of how a speed disadvantage for Wlad like he would have against Ali has not aided any fighters in a victory against him.

Like I said I never said they did do anything better than him, but its not relevant what is would be that no one has beaten Wlad in the manner we would assume Ali would attempt to, so why is it so inconceivable that he might not be able to?

Correct me if Im wrong, but judging from your posts, you seem to think that ALi was completely overrated....

[Ring Leader]

Ali would whoop that fool in a telephone booth, he isn't a champ like Ali and sure as hell isnt as pretty as Ali, Ali would stop him

[Capaedia]

Could only go with one option so I went with too pretty.

WLADS TOO UGLY TO BE THE CHAMP, THE CHAMPION SHOULD BE PRETTY LIKE HIM.