Reasons you think Ali would beat Wlad.

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  • -KPB-
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    #11
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Am I incorrect though? Doesn't Wlad usually do well against the type of fighter I described who shares similar attributes with Ali when being compared to Wlad?
    Are you then saying that Joe Louis would beat Wlad because he beat Primo carnera, who had the same build as wlad....

    Your nuthugging for Wlad has reached epic levels now.....Byrd, Chambers etc....do absolutely NOTHING better than Ali.....if so, please name em' thanks...

    I mean hey, lets compare Khan and Mayweather as the same fighter seen as they both have tremendous speed...

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      #12
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
      I don't think he would, Wlad has done better against smaller fighters who were quicker than himself and who don't press hard.
      are any of those smaller fighters even hall of famers??? we're talking about Ali here the best heavy weight ever based on resume and skills fought in the best era of heavyweights..he aint no damn chris byrd

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        #13
        Originally posted by -KPB-
        Are you then saying that Joe Louis would beat Wlad because he beat Primo carnera, who had the same build as wlad....

        Your nuthugging for Wlad has reached epic levels now.....Byrd, Chambers etc....do absolutely NOTHING better than Ali.....if so, please name em' thanks...

        I mean hey, lets compare Khan and Mayweather as the same fighter seen as they both have tremendous speed...
        yea joe louis beats his ass to,he was to calm and too powerful and had a great chin

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          #14
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Am I incorrect though? Doesn't Wlad usually do well against the type of fighter I described who shares similar attributes with Ali when being compared to Wlad?
          But he looked less than stellar against a smaller Haye. Ali was just in another stratosphere compared to those guys.
          Last edited by $tate of Mind; 08-02-2011, 05:57 PM.

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          • kendom
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            #15
            How exactly is Wlad going to beat him?

            Jab? Sonny Liston had a better jab than Wlad with a longer reach- 84 inches. Ali still dominated him.

            Footwork? Wlad's got good movement for someone of his size, not in the level of Ali though, and is often criticized for being slow, stiff and robotic.

            Inside fighting ability? Thats certainly not an attribute of Wlads, neither is going to the body and cutting off the ring, both of which he failed to do against a retreating Haye.

            Ali destroyed tall fighters like the 6ft 7 in Ernie Terrell,, in a fight with Wlad Ali would use his good head movement to pull back and evade Wlad's jab like he id against Sonny Liston, and his superior boxing skills to outbox Wlad and countering him with crisp, accurate shots, I'd say Wlads tendency to gas out could lead to a late KO or stoppage, or likely a clear unanimous decision.

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              #16
              He's too fast, he has a better jab, he has better defense, he is smarter, he is tough enough to take whatever they did land, and he is smart enough to adjust if the Klitschkos had any actual success.

              Ali would completely dominate either Klitschko, easily.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Hi Hater
                But he lost to a smaller Byrd and looked less than stellar against a smaller Haye. Ali was just in another stratosphere compared to those guys.
                wlad NEVER lost to bryd..he knocked him out twice...Vitali quit against Byrd

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                  #18
                  Actually I don't think Muhammad Ali evr fought a fighter with the combined size, athletisicm, and punching power of Wladimir.

                  What's more, Wladimir is not a dumb fighter like Joe Frazier, and would not fight Ali that way.

                  I see a cautiously fought bout.

                  Wladimir could beat Ali by decision.

                  Ali has never fought a fighter as good as Wladimir so its hard to say how the fight would go.

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                    #19
                    To be quite honest,

                    I think David Haye is about on Joe Frazier's level.

                    Wladimir beat Haye VERY EASILY, whereas Ali lost one fight to Frazier.

                    I think Wladimir could outbox Ali and win on decision.

                    Wlad has the PERFECT style to beat Ali with.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by LarryX2011
                      wlad NEVER lost to bryd..he knocked him out twice...Vitali quit against Byrd
                      My bad I was thinking about Vitali. But Wlad didn't impress me against a smaller Haye.

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