Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

[cupocity303]

Ali is more explosive then david haye wow...and if you know anything abut boxing, the best way to beat a big man is to stay out of there range then leap into them...hmm who had the best footwork in boxing?

Yet he did all that leaping, and jabbing to guys who were using their forehead as defense.

I've watched young Cassius Clay/Ali fights where he literally does nothing but move around and throw the occasional jab. When he did unload his entire arsenal, it was against guys the equivalent of Arturo Gatti < and we all know what offensive output Floyd had against him.

Try doing that to a 6'7 guy with a range jab, moderate footwork knowing when to backpaddle a bit to avoid the big punch.

[sweetscience18]

the 60 70 80 were nothing compared to todays era. How many soviet boxers fought in those eras?

Today we got boxers from every part of the world. So the talent pool is much higher.

And like I said all the boxers Ali beat would be considered midgets in todays era. Ali would stand no chance against Wlad.

Im just gonna keep letting you make a fool out of yourself.

[The_Expert]

I'm a forum-friend to some of the biggest Klitschko fans here, and I like the man and enjoy watching him box more often than not, but Wlad gets his ears boxed off by a '66 vintage Muhammad.

That muhammad ali would have been a CW in todays era. maybe he would have boxed Danny Greens or Tarvers ears off.

He would not be allowed to fight Wlad

[mikeyh1015]

I think you need to learn alot more about boxing.

No he does not. Ali was a big HYPE job. He beat all bums wuth the exception of Frasier, foreman and liston. Larry Holmes put it BEST "Ali's skill are over rated"

[VERILY]

Aoi outskills and outclasses wlad and he has more heart than wlad could dream of.

Wladimir has a wonderful heart, but Ali is just a lot tougher-hewn.



There's just no way that a physically prime and peak Ali's fluidity and creativity doesn't get the better of Wlad, IMO.

[The_Expert]

Yet he did all that leaping, and jabbing to guys who were using their forehead as defense.

I've watched young Cassius Clay/Ali fights where he literally does nothing but move around and throw the occasional jab. When he did unload his entire arsenal, it was against guys the equivalent of Arturo Gatti < and we all know what offensive output Floyd had against him.

Try doing that to a 6'7 guy with a range jab, moderate footwork knowing when to backpaddle a bit to avoid the big punch.

good to see someone who knows boxing.

[sweetscience18]

Yet he did all that leaping, and jabbing to guys who were using their forehead as defense.

I've watched young Cassius Clay/Ali fights where he literally does nothing but move around and throw the occasional jab. When he did unload his entire arsenal, it was against guys the equivalent of Arturo Gatti < and we all know what offensive output Floyd had against him.

Try doing that to a 6'7 guy with a range jab, moderate footwork knowing when to backpaddle a bit to avoid the big punch.

Did you ever stop tothink that maybe all the guys box differently now a days because they learned from watching ali fight..when youre that good, you make good opponents look average

[Spray_resistant]

If you think Ali would beat them fine its just a FF that can never happen anyway but what makes some of you think it would be so easy? Both Wlad and Vk are very good at what they do and use their physical advantages very well.
I doubt anyone has an easy time with the best versions of either and in a series against the best versions of the best ever I doubt anyone would be able to beat either every single time.

[Ring Leader]

Has Ali ever fought a HW who weihgter 245 pounds and was 6 foot 6?

what about wladimir? Has he ever fought a 6''6 giant? Has he ever fought Nikolai Valuev? No .... and why? Because he is scared of his big tall ass.

[The_Expert]

I think he could have been competitive because of his size and skill, but would he dominate the division at heavy? I strongly doubt it. It's hard to imagine him bullying or taking a punch from someone like George Foreman, lol.

George Foreman weighted as much as Chris Byrd.

In todays era he wouldnt be able to bully anyone