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  • puga
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    #111
    Originally posted by WESS
    Because Jones knew he couldn't ask for more money which held up the rematch for so long. Remember "60-40 I beat yo a$$". Jones couldn't ask that and took whatever he could get at that point as his days where gone back in 2004.

    You see like Hopkins and Jones, Bob knows no matter what he can ALWAYS make Mayweather vs Pac fight when ever. People will watch it. He hasn't wanted to risk it until his agenda is met.
    oh so that was more justified than a margs vs sergs rematch if margs gets the 154 title?.....remeber , roy just got ktfo prior to that.....

    it's also same with margs vs sergio....it will be sergios biggest payday other than pac, floyd, cotto.....

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      #112
      Originally posted by puga
      yes, theres is only 1 vacant title won by pac and i backed it up with facts, saying otherwise is ******ed...you on the other hand has not backed up your cliam that pac has 5 vacant titles, you know why?.....coz you cant justify it, you just made it up again thinking it would get ignored...

      oh, cotto is gatti?...lol..maybe becuase you want to convince people that floydwould've gattied cotto...lol.....nice try...

      pac's win over cotto ****s on anything floyd has done at ww....and the reason why floyd did'nt not want margo is becuase they saw him as the bigger version of jlc, nothing more...it was never about the money...they fought baldo for the less amount...floyd ducked margs, there's no way you can deny that...
      I'll get back to you on the vacant titles. Just 2 or 3 days ago I was just reading about them but don't have the link. I'll search for it. I don't just make shyt up s when I was reading it I was surprised. I have read a lot shyt and sometimes mix shyt up like I did with the Kellerman quote BUT the point and meaning of the comment where exactly the same. Just different words but in the same context.

      About Cotto, No I'm just saying that Cotto isn't great but HE is good fighter, like Gatti was. Yes Floyd would Gatti the shyt out of Cotto and Bob Arum knew that even at 140. Who has Cotto beat that makes him something special or better put, WHO has Cotto beaten that makes YOU think he could beat Floyd?

      So with your Margarito Mayweather logic of "Money", than Pac ducked Mayweather to fight Clottey for 12 million and change when he could have made 5 X that.

      Its ALWAYS about the money, hence Pac skipped out on Berto, Ortiz, Bradley, Alexander. Why because there not IN HOUSE fighters where Bob could make more money. They're ALSO not a big draw. Its ALWAYS about the money.

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        #113
        Originally posted by puga
        oh so that was more justified than a margs vs sergs rematch if margs gets the 154 title?.....remeber , roy just got ktfo prior to that.....

        it's also same with margs vs sergio....it will be sergios biggest payday other than pac, floyd, cotto.....
        No, Hop Jones was a horrible fight that I DIDN'T want to see just like I don't want to see Martinez vs Margarito. Sergio needs to stay at MW or move up.

        and its not hard to wonder why he would stay at JMW to try and get Mayweather or Pac as he wants to get paid. Fighting Margarito is a waste of time and will prove nothing. Sergio's not getting any younger and needs better opposition to better his legacy. He was on a role.... not so much now.

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          #114
          Originally posted by WESS
          I'll get back to you on the vacant titles. Just 2 or 3 days ago I was just reading about them but don't have the link. I'll search for it. I don't just make shyt up s when I was reading it I was surprised. I have read a lot shyt and sometimes mix shyt up like I did with the Kellerman quote BUT the point and meaning of the comment where exactly the same. Just different words but in the same context. About Cotto, No I'm just saying that Cotto isn't great but HE is good fighter, like Gatti was. Yes Floyd would Gatti the shyt out of Cotto and Bob Arum knew that even at 140. Who has Cotto beat that makes him something special or better put, WHO has Cotto beaten that makes YOU think he could beat Floyd? So with your Margarito Mayweather logic of "Money", than Pac ducked Mayweather to fight Clottey for 12 million and change when he could have made 5 X that. Its ALWAYS about the money, hence Pac skipped out on Berto, Ortiz, Bradley, Alexander. Why because there not IN HOUSE fighters where Bob could make more money. They're ALSO not a big draw. Its ALWAYS about the money.
          LOL... i just gave you facts about that....theres no link that could justify what you said that 5 of pac's titles were vacant..none , zip , nada...i mean do you really have to do a lot of reasech to do that?....lol....

          and i knew it, you compared cotto to gatti for that reason.....cotto lived too far , remember?....lol

          pac skipping berto , alex and bardely aint like floyd skipping margo to fight baldo, aint the same......baldo was not a bigger name than margo like shane is to berto, alex, oriz etc....

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            #115
            Originally posted by puga
            LOL... i just gave you facts about that....theres no link that could justify what you said that 5 of pac's titles were vacant..none , zip , nada...i mean do you really have to do a lot of reasech to do that?....lol....

            and i knew it, you compared cotto to gatti for that reason.....cotto lived too far , remember?....lol

            pac skipping berto , alex and bardely aint like floyd skipping margo to fight baldo, aint the same......baldo was not a bigger name than margo like shane is to berto, alex, oriz etc....
            You seem flustered. Calm down. I didn't actually compare Cotto to Gatti. You related the two and I agreed with you on it. YOU actually did it not me. I just agreed.

            I like how you grasp on to Floyd's words of "too far". Even his fans don't take EVERY word to the grave. You don't really believe all the nasty things he's said about Pac do you? Again, WHO has Cotto beat that makes YOU think he's so good or could beat Mayweather?

            Pac not fighting Berto, Ortiz, Bradley, Alexander is EXACTLY like Mayweather not fighting Margarito or Cotto. Its all business and about the money

            Baldo was the champ because he beat Judah who everyone wanted to see Floyd fight and said he was ducking, scared, cowardly etc etc etc (sound familiar). He fought both and after the fact what happened? We have a new Judah named Pac that's supposed to beat Floyd.

            Hey whens the last time Pac fought a Top 3 WW or a Top 3 JMW?

            Last time I checked Floyd fought the #1 WW that a year later Pac finally fought after ducking since 2009. Now Mayweather's fighting a top 3 WW. What rank at WW is JMM?

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              #116
              Originally posted by puga
              one fact we all know about margs is, he owned both guys.......all of that sergio would khtfo is all speculation until it happens....
              Lol, no. Marg got his ass handed to him the first six rounds of the cotto fight. He started busting cotto up after the sixth. Incidently, this is about the time that plaster begins hardening. Not saying margarito did not have the momentum, but after the tenth the scorecards were pretty damn close, it was anybodys fight to win.

              I think cotto goes in with a better gameplan (with manny), and marg's skills have declined somewhat, cotto beats that punks ass. Cotto may even be a better boxer now than he was then. Time will tell.

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                #117
                Originally posted by WESS
                You seem flustered. Calm down. I didn't actually compare Cotto to Gatti. You related the two and I agreed with you on it. YOU actually did it not me. I just agreed.

                I like how you grasp on to Floyd's words of "too far". Even his fans don't take EVERY word to the grave. You don't really believe all the nasty things he's said about Pac do you? Again, WHO has Cotto beat that makes YOU think he's so good or could beat Mayweather?

                Pac not fighting Berto, Ortiz, Bradley, Alexander is EXACTLY like Mayweather not fighting Margarito or Cotto. Its all business and about the money

                Baldo was the champ because he beat Judah who everyone wanted to see Floyd fight and said he was ducking, scared, cowardly etc etc etc (sound familiar). He fought both and after the fact what happened? We have a new Judah named Pac that's supposed to beat Floyd.

                Hey whens the last time Pac fought a Top 3 WW or a Top 3 JMW?

                Last time I checked Floyd fought the #1 WW that a year later Pac finally fought after ducking since 2009. Now Mayweather's fighting a top 3 WW. What rank at WW is JMM?
                trust me im calm...after you said, pac's has won 5 vacant titles, it knew my position could never get better...lol

                i did'nt agreewith waht you said about cotto and gatti....gatti could'nt hold cotto's jockstarp, he was never that good, he was just exciting(RIP to him)...cotto would've given floyd the biggest test of his carrer had he fought him before he retired...

                cotto was top 3 ww when pac fought him.....better than anything floyd has done at ww, i hope you know that....

                baldo was a trash, a flash in the pan, dont know why you *****s are even bragging about that ****....

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by puga
                  trust me im calm...after you said, pac's has won 5 vacant titles, it knew my position could never get better...lol

                  i did'nt agreewith waht you said about cotto and gatti....gatti could'nt hold cotto's jockstarp, he was never that good, he was just exciting(RIP to him)...cotto would've given floyd the biggest test of his carrer had he fought him before he retired...

                  cotto was top 3 ww when pac fought him.....better than anything floyd has done at ww, i hope you know that....

                  baldo was a trash, a flash in the pan, dont know why you *****s are even bragging about that ****....
                  For one, I'm not bragging about Baldo. Just saying he beat Judah who EVERYONE said Floyd was scared of. As for Cotto, No Mosley was #1 when Floyd beat him and destroyed the guy that destroyed Cotto. Cotto arguably beat Mosley. Mayweather dominated Mosley. Mayweather vs Mosley > Pac vs Cotto. ONCE AGAIN, WHO has Cotto beaten that makes YOU think he could beat Mayweather? Cotto was #3, Judah and Baldo where Top 3 too when Floyd fought them. What does that mean though?

                  and I'll find what I read about the titles, right or wrong.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    You seem flustered. Calm down. I didn't actually compare Cotto to Gatti. You related the two and I agreed with you on it. YOU actually did it not me. I just agreed.

                    I like how you grasp on to Floyd's words of "too far". Even his fans don't take EVERY word to the grave. You don't really believe all the nasty things he's said about Pac do you? Again, WHO has Cotto beat that makes YOU think he's so good or could beat Mayweather?

                    Pac not fighting Berto, Ortiz, Bradley, Alexander is EXACTLY like Mayweather not fighting Margarito or Cotto. Its all business and about the money

                    Baldo was the champ because he beat Judah who everyone wanted to see Floyd fight and said he was ducking, scared, cowardly etc etc etc (sound familiar). He fought both and after the fact what happened? We have a new Judah named Pac that's supposed to beat Floyd.

                    Hey whens the last time Pac fought a Top 3 WW or a Top 3 JMW?

                    Last time I checked Floyd fought the #1 WW that a year later Pac finally fought after ducking since 2009. Now Mayweather's fighting a top 3 WW. What rank at WW is JMM?
                    Someone needs to answer this question or shut up.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by akScoundrel
                      Lol, no. Marg got his ass handed to him the first six rounds of the cotto fight. He started busting cotto up after the sixth. Incidently, this is about the time that plaster begins hardening. Not saying margarito did not have the momentum, but after the tenth the scorecards were pretty damn close, it was anybodys fight to win.

                      I think cotto goes in with a better gameplan (with manny), and marg's skills have declined somewhat, cotto beats that punks ass. Cotto may even be a better boxer now than he was then. Time will tell.
                      no, what?....the plaster thing vs cotto is all proofless....cotto vs manny is useless...and i think margo beats cotto again, let me know a week afetrthe fight so we can bet...i love both margs and cotto the same...


                      Originally posted by WESS
                      For one, I'm not bragging about Baldo. Just saying he beat Judah who EVERYONE said Floyd was scared of. As for Cotto, No Mosley was #1 when Floyd beat him and destroyed the guy that destroyed Cotto. Cotto arguably beat Mosley. Mayweather dominated Mosley. Mayweather vs Mosley > Pac vs Cotto. ONCE AGAIN, WHO has Cotto beaten that makes YOU think he could beat Mayweather? Cotto was #3, Judah and Baldo where Top 3 too when Floyd fought them. What does that mean though?

                      and I'll find what I read about the titles, right or wrong.
                      whoever said floyd was scared of judah were out of there minds, esp that he lost to a bum in baldo prior to that...i

                      yes. shane was number 1(on paper) but we all know cotto owned him....and yes cotto was still top 3 when pac fought him....

                      cotto owned shane......therefore, pac's win over cotto **** on antyhing floyd has done.......

                      it's wrong to say floyd's win is bettter than pac vs cotto, thats for sure...

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