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    #101
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Good God.

    First Darren Barker and now a shot to pieces Margarito?

    Why do this, Sergio?
    I've asked the same question.

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      #102
      Originally posted by WESS
      So your saying 4 where vacant? lol Hey you remember Nate Campbell? The guy he ducked to fight Diaz?? lol Hey what Champion did Cotto beat to get that title after he lost his title to Margarito?
      LOL...it was you who said pac 5 titles were vacant.......yougot owned with that staement di'nt you?....the only vacant tielte pac has won was the wbc jmw title...

      and yeah, i remember that self -righteous idiot....he was never relevant....oh so now, youre gonna downplay cotto so you can down play pac ...

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        #103
        Originally posted by puga
        ok , i forgive you for making **** up ..done , whatever..

        answer: becuase floyd did not want any, thats why....why clottey?...becuase some claimed he beat cotto and was a top 5 ww at that time and ofcourse again, floyd did not want any...do you reall have to ask that...

        i did'nt say greenburg was with team floyd but he was with hbo,(neutral) why the hell would he lie about the 2nd negotiation happening?....
        There you go again saying Floyd didnt want none. Do you not remember Arum protecting Cotto from Mayeather? Or Mayweather from Hoya? Whats to say he's protecting Pac from Mayweather?

        When Bob is ready the fight will be made. I'm hoping Manny just fires him like Mayweather and Hoya did. Pac's wondering why Mayweather's making more money than him, if Bob's fired he wouldn't have to.

        As far as Greenburg is concerned, again Bob knows if he wants to make the fight he would deal with Mayweather and team not HBO. Neutral? lol What does that even mean? They're a business, they're out to make money and want the fight made just as bad as any boxing fan/hater. I bet they REALLY want it now because Bob went to showtime. So how again is this neutral NOW that Bob can walk away if they don't do as he asks? btw, didn't Greenburg get fired? I wonder why?

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          #104
          Originally posted by WESS
          I've asked the same question.
          why did bhop rematch roy?.....

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            #105
            Originally posted by puga
            LOL...it was you who said pac 5 titles were vacant.......yougot owned with that staement di'nt you?....the only vacant tielte pac has won was the wbc jmw title...

            and yeah, i remember that self -righteous idiot....he was never relevant....oh so now, youre gonna downplay cotto so you can down play pac ...
            So your saying the ONLY vacant title Pac has won was JMW?? lol

            I like Cotto. I think he's the Gatti of WW. He's nothing great but I like him and his style. I'm not down playing him if I wanted to do that I would say he quit like a bytch vs Margarito.

            My problem is, just because Pac fought a beaten Cotto doesn't make him an ATG at WW. lol Floyd Mayweather beating Cotto would be no different than having Judah on his record. The only fight he didn't get at WW that was ant significance other than pac is Margarito just because Margarito was a title holder for a long time. The problem is, Bob didn't want to Pay Floyd what he wanted. Bob NOW knows better and "gives" Pac what he asks for yet Pac still doesn't see that he's missing money.

            Again, the problem lies with Bob. When he wants fights made he makes them when he wants to make them. But again, I like Cotto and I'm pulling for him to win against Margarito even though he hasn't been the same since the beating he got from him the 1st time even with Steward.

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              #106
              Originally posted by WESS
              There you go again saying Floyd didnt want none. Do you not remember Arum protecting Cotto from Mayeather? Or Mayweather from Hoya? Whats to say he's protecting Pac from Mayweather?

              When Bob is ready the fight will be made. I'm hoping Manny just fires him like Mayweather and Hoya did. Pac's wondering why Mayweather's making more money than him, if Bob's fired he wouldn't have to.

              As far as Greenburg is concerned, again Bob knows if he wants to make the fight he would deal with Mayweather and team not HBO. Neutral? lol What does that even mean? They're a business, they're out to make money and want the fight made just as bad as any boxing fan/hater. I bet they REALLY want it now because Bob went to showtime. So how again is this neutral NOW that Bob can walk away if they don't do as he asks? btw, didn't Greenburg get fired? I wonder why?
              he did'nt want any....all of floyd's actions directs to that conclusion ......floyd is the only one out of cotto, shane, pac, clottey,margo who only fought one of them......funny why aint it?...lol

              so youre sayin arum somehow twisted greenword arms somehow so hed say the second negotaition happened?.....dude, hbo is floyd's home(like how he calls it), why would greenburg lie?....what does greenburg getting fired have to do with the topic?.....and it was reported he got fired becuase he refused the pac vs shane fight....but why is that relevant?....

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                #107
                Originally posted by puga
                why did bhop rematch roy?.....
                Because Jones knew he couldn't ask for more money which held up the rematch for so long. Remember "60-40 I beat yo a$$". Jones couldn't ask that and took whatever he could get at that point as his days where gone back in 2004.

                You see like Hopkins and Jones, Bob knows no matter what he can ALWAYS make Mayweather vs Pac fight when ever. People will watch it. He hasn't wanted to risk it until his agenda is met.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by puga
                  he did'nt want any....all of floyd's actions directs to that conclusion ......floyd is the only one out of cotto, shane, pac, clottey,margo who only fought one of them......funny why aint it?...lol

                  so youre sayin arum somehow twisted greenword arms somehow so hed say the second negotaition happened?.....dude, hbo is floyd's home(like how he calls it), why would greenburg lie?....what does greenburg getting fired have to do with the topic?.....and it was reported he got fired becuase he refused the pac vs shane fight....but why is that relevant?....
                  All those fighter BUT one is Top Rank? Guess who?

                  Bob has a lot of pull and I'm not saying he did or didn't have the upper hand on Greenburg. I'm just saying that Bob who's been involved one way or another for decades in boxing knows how to negotiate. By not going to the people you want to negotiate with speaks louder than ANYONE just saying "floyd didn't want none"... Bob's said he didn't DIRECTLY talk to anyone from Team Mayweather. How is that called negotiating? Not only that, EVEN if there was negotiations, he would have said the USADA was biased towards Pac like he just did a few weeks ago. There still wouldn't have been a fight because again when Bob's ready it will happen.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    So your saying the ONLY vacant title Pac has won was JMW?? lol

                    I like Cotto. I think he's the Gatti of WW. He's nothing great but I like him and his style. I'm not down playing him if I wanted to do that I would say he quit like a bytch vs Margarito.

                    My problem is, just because Pac fought a beaten Cotto doesn't make him an ATG at WW. lol Floyd Mayweather beating Cotto would be no different than having Judah on his record. The only fight he didn't get at WW that was ant significance other than pac is Margarito just because Margarito was a title holder for a long time. The problem is, Bob didn't want to Pay Floyd what he wanted. Bob NOW knows better and "gives" Pac what he asks for yet Pac still doesn't see that he's missing money.

                    Again, the problem lies with Bob. When he wants fights made he makes them when he wants to make them. But again, I like Cotto and I'm pulling for him to win against Margarito even though he hasn't been the same since the beating he got from him the 1st time even with Steward.

                    yes, theres is only 1 vacant title won by pac and i backed it up with facts, saying otherwise is ******ed...you on the other hand has not backed up your cliam that pac has 5 vacant titles, you know why?.....coz you cant justify it, you just made it up again thinking it would get ignored...

                    oh, cotto is gatti?...lol..maybe becuase you want to convince people that floydwould've gattied cotto...lol.....nice try...

                    pac's win over cotto ****s on anything floyd has done at ww....and the reason why floyd did'nt not want margo is becuase they saw him as the bigger version of jlc, nothing more...it was never about the money...they fought baldo for the less amount...floyd ducked margs, there's no way you can deny that...

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by WESS
                      All those fighter BUT one is Top Rank? Guess who?

                      Bob has a lot of pull and I'm not saying he did or didn't have the upper hand on Greenburg. I'm just saying that Bob who's been involved one way or another for decades in boxing knows how to negotiate. By not going to the people you want to negotiate with speaks louder than ANYONE just saying "floyd didn't want none"... Bob's said he didn't DIRECTLY talk to anyone from Team Mayweather. How is that called negotiating? Not only that, EVEN if there was negotiations, he would have said the USADA was biased towards Pac like he just did a few weeks ago. There still wouldn't have been a fight because again when Bob's ready it will happen.
                      oh, blame arum again.....my good ness you *****s are hanging on a thread by using arum everytime floyd does the ducking...

                      if thats was the case , why did floyd promised marg(knowing already margo was a top rank guy) a fight then he retired?....

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