Comments Thread For: Khan Anyone Beat Him at 140?: Review, Ratings Update

[crold1]

Hey Cliff,

Great ratings once again - as per usual I have my nits with them. They are as follows:

Cruiserweight

I actually had Tarver in my ratings for a couple of months but I can see why you didn't (since he hadn't fought there yet). However, I'm puzzled as to why Green now disappears from the top ten. Green lost to an excellent fighter in Tarver. Green also has relatively recent wins over BJ Flores and Roy Jones. Compare that to Fragomeni or Guillermo Jones. You're penalizing Green too much here.

Super Middle

I still think Quillin is too high. He's active and all but since his best wins are over Jesse Brinkley and Dionisio Miranda (who he was life and death with a few years ago) - that just doesn't get you into the top ten. Pryor Jr.'s win over Andrade is better than both of those wins and couple that with Pryor's win over Dyah Davis and I'd at least rate him higher than Kid Choc.

Middleweight

I know Golovkin has a lot of hype and a great amateur background but check his opponent list. It's weak. He might deserve a top 5 rating eventually, but let's not get carried away with a win over a faded Ouma. I'd still put Macklin, Sylvester and Pirog ahead of him.

Oh yeah - why do you have P-Will still rated at 160? In his last three fights, he beat (!?) Lara at 154, lost to Sergio at a catchweight of 157 and beat Cintron at 154. Sounds like a Junior Middleweight to me.

Junior Middleweight

I just moved Angulo out of the ratings for inactivity - though he is allegedly scheduled to fight an eliminator against Vanes. When it's signed I'll believe it.

Welterweight

Aydin just won a tuneup on 7/15 so correct his record. Also, I still have the standing objection re: Sanchenko and Ouali in the top ten. I definitely think Mike Jones, Brad Solomon and Randall Bailey have beaten better opposition. Also, if you have Kotelnik ahead of Alexander and Caballero ahead of Barros (presumably because you thought the wrong guy had their hand raised in those fights) then you should definitely have at least Bailey ahead of Ouali. Bailey got jobbed with that DQ when they met. I can't any other reason you'd have Ouali in the top ten other that "win" over Bailey.

Featherweight

Gamboa was stripped of the WBA title - Barros has that now. Check the WBA website.

Strawweight

Garcia is no longer the interim WBO champ - he is the champ outright as Nieto moved up in weight to Junior Fly - check the WBO website.

Just so you don't think I'm just a wanker who likes to pick on your ratings. Here is a link to mine:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...edit?hl=en_US#

Thanks for the observations as always. Noted at 26 and 05; had meant to change Gamboa and forgot. Neglected Garcia. Catch those for next weeks update.

[Yaconcha]

yes they can, there are english fighters who can do the job and many us fighters who can also do the job and probably a number of others too!
but, roach will pick someone else who will be either, old,weak at his demanded weight requirements which will more than likely be with a naturally heavier fighter who will have to come down in weight,somebody who doesnt hit very hard,someone who gasses out quick,someone who will do it for nothing (which will please the *********s dad) cheap cheap bloody cheap!
anyway, kevin mitchell would do him,so would kell brook,he had trouble with mccloskey and got knocked down by the weak willie limond and the pisshead gomez aaaaaaaand he got kod by prescott who then went on to lose about 20 times in a row after the great,easy ko of the p4p best fighter in the w`olr who is amir "king" khan. NOT.

[Yaconcha]

the blokes a ****.
Im going for a poo now.