Which fighter is more dangerous??Bradley for Pac or Ortiz for Mayweather???

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
    But Bradley beat Pac??
    Perhaps in what you deem as reality.

    Not in the real world.

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      #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Seems Bradley and Ortiz (Back then) are both overrated.

      Ortiz less so now after his last 2 performances of course.

      Bradley is better than Ortiz but in terms of being more dangerous I would still say Ortiz because Ortiz had a punchers chance of winning.
      That's been exaggerated, Ortiz may have a strong punch but it didn't apply well in the middle of the ring, his straight left hand was average, he had to force you into the ropes to land his signature right hook, right uppercut combination because he couldn't land it so well in the middle of the ring. This is why Floyd kept moving to Ortiz's left.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
        That's been exaggerated, Ortiz may have a strong punch but it didn't apply well in the middle of the ring, his straight left hand was average, he had to force you into the ropes to land his signature right hook, right uppercut combination because he couldn't land it so well in the middle of the ring. This is why Floyd kept moving to Ortiz's left.
        He still has enough power to hurt Mayweather which gave him a chance.

        Bradley didn't have a punchers chance with Pacquaio.

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          #54
          Originally posted by MANIAC310
          Ortiz was competitive against Mayweather before he got sucker punched.
          He was clearly losing but he had some moments


          Bradley lost 12 rounds straight and was walking with a limp by the end of the match
          Ortiz headbutted Mayweather because he was frustrated that he couldn't land anything clean. That was a sucker headbutt and he got what he deserved.

          Bradley lost the first half of the fight but didn't get hit anywhere near the amount people make out, he adjusted and even with bad legs made the second half of the fight competitive.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
            That's been exaggerated, Ortiz may have a strong punch but it didn't apply well in the middle of the ring, his straight left hand was average, he had to force you into the ropes to land his signature right hook, right uppercut combination because he couldn't land it so well in the middle of the ring. This is why Floyd kept moving to Ortiz's left.
            When fighting someone who is a great boxer a big puncher will always have a better chance than a good boxer. It's more likely the puncher will catch them with a punch than the good boxer will outbox the great one.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Own3d
              When fighting someone who is a great boxer a big puncher will always have a better chance than a good boxer. It's more likely the puncher will catch them with a punch than the good boxer will outbox the great one.
              It depends on who we're talking about so that isn't even factual. Ortiz may have had the stronger punch but that doesn't mean his chances of winning were greater than Bradley, I get the feeling that the topic is no longer about who had the better chance of winning but who was physically more dangerous.

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              • Rome-By-Ko
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                #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Perhaps in what you deem as reality.

                Not in the real world.
                There is only one reality, and in it Bradley is undefeated...But in your reality Bradley(a two time unified champion)is overrated..Ok...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                  There is only one reality, and in it Bradley is undefeated...But in your reality Bradley(a two time unified champion)is overrated..Ok...
                  I suppose this is the same reality where robberies aren't real? I suppose it is

                  You can be a two time unified Champion and be overrated. Zab Judah has similar accolades, and he's overrated to the highest degree.

                  Bradley is a good fighter, no doubt. But when people think only Mayweather can beat him between 140-147 and people like Marquez might beat him then yes he is very overrated by set people.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I suppose this is the same reality where robberies aren't real? I suppose it is

                    You can be a two time unified Champion and be overrated. Zab Judah has similar accolades, and he's overrated to the highest degree.

                    Bradley is a good fighter, no doubt. But when people think only Mayweather can beat him between 140-147 and people like Marquez might beat him then yes he is very overrated by set people.
                    Why is it crazy to think Bradley beats Marquez?? Or every fighter from 140lb to 147lb, when he's shown to be a cut above most fighting there already??

                    Can you name the fighter that Marquez has beat with his skill set?? I'll wait..

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      I suppose this is the same reality where robberies aren't real? I suppose it is

                      You can be a two time unified Champion and be overrated. Zab Judah has similar accolades, and he's overrated to the highest degree.

                      Bradley is a good fighter, no doubt. But when people think only Mayweather can beat him between 140-147 and people like Marquez might beat him then yes he is very overrated by set people.
                      So Marquez certainly beats him then?

                      Bradley could outbox him, force him out of his element, Marquez isn't the same quality of fighter when he's made to be the aggressor and Bradley without a doubt will force him to do that. Bradley will make him reset by circling him and attack intelligently. We're talking about a 40 year old Marquez as well, lets be realistic.

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