Hopefully this was the last we hear from Zab Judah

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  • Evil Abed
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    #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Maybe so, I don't think this is Khan best win however. So it doesn't hurt Khan resume as such.

    Judah is/was one of the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years.
    I could see Judah-Molsey happening now.

    The fight could be called the Biggest loser.

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    • THe TRiNiTY
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      #22
      Judah has been a let down to say the least. He didn't let me down as I was never a big fan but I still probably have expectations that weren't met. A quality fighter always has ONE big skill that he builds his other skills around.

      However, Judah doesn't have that. Take away Judah's speed/power, and he's not much else. Slick at times but never consistently enough. Simply a normal fighter, nothing major.

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      • -Kev-
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        #23
        I like Judah but I will have to agree, he has had two cop outs since 2008-present, and that's too much.

        First one against Clottey, okay, I let him slide, but that was a cop out, but the cut was there and it was something fans can see actually happened.

        Second cop out against Khan. Hit on the belt line, maybe just slightly low, but not around the dick or balls. COP OUT.

        Judah did good with his 5 fight win streak and winning a title against a tough guy in Mabuza and the way he did it. He also beat Matthysse another tough guy. But, this was another cop out when he stepped up to the highest level, the level in which if he won, he would shut some critics up. But he failed.

        He could have 10 losses, Salido does, Corley has more than that, Augustus was born with 20 losses, Glen Johnson has well over 10, but none of these guys really have a loss in which you can point and say, damn, that was a cop out. Zab has two of those, and IMO, that's too much.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ThePhantom5
          I could see Judah-Molsey happening now.

          The fight could be called the Biggest loser.
          Winner gets a shot at a major title and PPV against a big name.

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          • Froghead99
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            #25
            Nah, Zab got his ass beat by one of the best young fighters in the world. Zab had beaten Matts, one of the best 140 pounders, and Mabuza another very good 140 pounder.

            Zab would probably do very well against any 140 pounder not Khan or Bradley. Although, style wise, the Bradley fight is very different. So maybe that one would go a bit differently.

            I still think Zab is the third best 140 pounder.

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              #26
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Winner gets a shot at a major title and PPV against a big name.
              Perhaps the winner of Berto-Zaveck.

              Neither one will ever get a shot at Pac or Floyd again.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Froghead99
                Nah, Zab got his ass beat by one of the best young fighters in the world. Zab had beaten Matts, one of the best 140 pounders, and Mabuza another very good 140 pounder.

                Zab would probably do very well against any 140 pounder not Khan or Bradley. Although, style wise, the Bradley fight is very different. So maybe that one would go a bit differently.

                I still think Zab is the third best 140 pounder.
                Bradley,Maidana and Matthysse in a rematch beat Judah. I hope he retires.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Froghead99
                  Nah, Zab got his ass beat by one of the best young fighters in the world. Zab had beaten Matts, one of the best 140 pounders, and Mabuza another very good 140 pounder.

                  Zab would probably do very well against any 140 pounder not Khan or Bradley. Although, style wise, the Bradley fight is very different. So maybe that one would go a bit differently.

                  I still think Zab is the third best 140 pounder.
                  Good God man,

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Good God man,

                    They never learn.

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                    • Haglerwins
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by THe TRiNiTY
                      Judah has been a let down to say the least. He didn't let me down as I was never a big fan but I still probably have expectations that weren't met. A quality fighter always has ONE big skill that he builds his other skills around.

                      However, Judah doesn't have that. Take away Judah's speed/power, and he's not much else. Slick at times but never consistently enough. Simply a normal fighter, nothing major.
                      Zab ain't even slick. He is straight clumsy as hell on defense. I haven't seen him parry or use a real guard for years. He just tries to 'get away' from your punches ala Pea, but I don't even want to call it that. and the times he's tried the shoulder roll like he's Floyd is pretty laughable. You can tell he's kind of not comfortable fighting the way he does even if he is being trained by whom he likes.

                      It's too late, but he needs to be broken down completely, shown basics how to use his gloves to deflect/defend from punches and become offensively oriented in his training. Set up punches, make openings when you don't see any. This is one thing Khan and Manny are excellent at even if they don't look as poised as a Mayweather or something. Judah is one fighter that would thrive tactically under Freddie Roach.

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