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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
    Two different types of fighters and a totally different fight than the Judah fight.

    I love the way fans get all hyped up after their fighter just won...lol. Khan is a damn good fighter, don't get me wrong but I also think Judah isn't as good as some people give him credit for at this stage of his career.

    He has looked like **** in his last 3 fights, arguably losing 2 of the 3 and in his last fight, had to come back from a knockdown to win.

    Judah is done, Ortiz is a much different opponent and would be bigger and stronger than Khan. It would make for a great fight. Could Khan keep Ortiz outside for 12 rounds, or would Ortiz work his way inside and dominate Khan?

    That would be the question. I would put money on Ortiz because I don't think Khan could keep him off of him for 12 rounds.
    ^^^^^^^^^^THIS

    Judah looked bad against mabuzza and matthysse. He is washed up and never was elite to begin with.

    Khan has superior skills but the ortiz that fought berto would walk over khan. Khan was hit with 2 solid punches against judah and both times he was stopped in his tracks. Just need to see more than mccloskey and a inactive judah fight to convince me that khan has heart.

    Khan will always have trouble with agressive fighters and dominant the boxer types

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    • #32
      Originally posted by americanbot View Post
      if ortiz fought khan the way he fought berto khan gets ko'd.......

      ortiz fought like a mad man vs berto......he kept on coming.

      maidana almost beat khan in this way.......

      if ortiz gets on the inside it's a done fight.

      sorry mate.
      this..............................

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
        i like how u ignore that ortiz's win over berto is better than any of khans wins.
        Khan's shutout win over Kotelnik is better than Ortiz's win over Berto

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jimbo87 View Post
          Khan's shutout win over Kotelnik is better than Ortiz's win over Berto
          No. Ortiz won a ww championship his 1st fight at the weight. You gotta be fair and give him the credit he deserves.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ogh View Post
            David haye had better speed, footwork and angles than wladimir, but sometimes(im not saying all the time) but sometimes that just isnt enough, and victors southpaw.
            Wladimir for his size is very fast and he has better footwork. He dominated Haye for most of the fight.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              No. Ortiz won a ww championship his 1st fight at the weight. You gotta be fair and give him the credit he deserves.
              Against Andre ****ing Berto

              Who's best win is? Collazo? (which he should of lost btw), Urango? (outboxed by Hatton and KTFO by Alexander, Quintana? (who with the greatest of respect isn't very good)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                No. Ortiz won a ww championship his 1st fight at the weight. You gotta be fair and give him the credit he deserves.
                Khan's title fight against was his first at LWW aswell.

                Ortiz definitely has a power/strength advantage over Khan although he can be outboxed as shown by Peterson and Khan is better fighter than Peterson. Also how would victo cope with an oppenent who isnt going to be laying on the ropes but pumping a jab in his face constantly as he tries to get inside.

                Its an interesting style matchup but before Khan fights at 147 I wouldnt make a firm predicition.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by NationalWriter View Post
                  Khan has

                  Faster Handspeed
                  Better footwork (and doesnt use footwork 10 feet away from his opponent to try make it look like your actually doing something ala Ortiz Peterson)
                  Uses more angles
                  More heart ..... i dont even have to explain this one


                  The only thing you could say Ortiz has on Khan is power but what is power if you cant find the target. Guarentee if they fight Ortiz wouldnt be able to find Khan all night. And chin .... but id rather have a glass chin and a huge ass heart than a good chin and no heart PERIOD!

                  To all the members of the jury ..... i rest my case



                  Btw a better RESUME. A way WAY better resume man. The only reason people are sucking on his feet is because Ortiz is the flavor of the month. Guarentee if he wasnt fighting Mayweather nobody would be having this descussion
                  umm wasnt maidana taxing him all night???
                  not to mention he has about half of victors speed

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                  • #39
                    I'd fancy Ortiz to win at 147, he looked a much better, bigger and stronger fighter at the weight. Much like Khan does after moving up to 140. I'm not taking too much from the Judah fight either, Zab looked dreadful for the 3rd fight in a row.

                    Khan could outbox Ortiz, but at the same time Amir doesn't like come forward fighters, let alone one with good speed and very good power. At 140 I'd go with Khan, at 147 I'd go with Ortiz. It would be an interesting fight.

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                    • #40
                      Sigh. I knew beating up the shot Judah would make people go crazy...

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