Khan's resume is level with Bradley if not better

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  • bojangles1987
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    #11
    Originally posted by JmH Reborn
    The argument really comes down to who you favor more, Maidana or Alexander. And me personally, I favor Maidana by a country mile.

    Maidana, Kotelnik and Malignaggi are three wins/fighters that are better than whomever Bradley has fought, even taken into account J. Witter

    Barrera omitted to obvious money grab against a faded ATG
    I disagree. Holt, Witter, and Lamont Peterson were all better wins than Alexander, and I'd say Holt and Witter were better wins than Kotelnik or Malignaggi.

    Alexander was just Bradley's most hyped win, not his best.

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    • RINGG
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      #12
      With one fight Khan has matched Bradley. But before that it wasn't so close.

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      • sicko
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        #13
        Originally posted by ElderlyBeater
        Judah beat Mabuza and just got pass Matthyse although could have lost it too. Matthyse just fought Alexander and again could have lost it, and many say, if it was 12 rounds, Alexander would have lost, because he was gassed and nearly out.

        So if Alexander is the best 'win', then he certainly wasn't above Judah. Heck Kotelnik showed up Alexander very badly.

        I do like 140, links everywhere to each other.

        I agree both beat anyone on each others resume and both add a lot to each other.

        I just simply can not work out how Bradley is above Khan.

        Alexander is not that good as we thought. He is Matthyse and zkotelnik level.

        Holt lost to Mabuza who Zab just beat.

        Witted has lost 4 since to Bradley but his best 'win' was ndou perhaps, pretty similar to Malliagni level really. Vivian Harris maybe his best 'win' but again he's a bum.

        Cherry was shot as anything.

        Vasquez beat prescot who beat khan though, but Vasquez lost to alvarez. Prescott did lose to Kevin mitchel who got beaten by that Australian that guerraro beat. Katsidis is he name.


        Maidana beat a current ww champ in Ortiz...
        Limited? Yeah but boxing is all about the ko, the guaranteed way to 'win'. Or tko. If matthyse got a bad decision vs Alexander then I believe maidana beats Alexander.
        Maidana and matthyse sparred as amateurs and even had a bout for argetina qualifiers. Maidana won on his speed. Maidana is faster than matthyse and looks slow but actually is deceptively fast.




        Kotelnik IMO beat Alexander anyway. Crooks. Even mayweather said kotelnik won.

        Matthyse who fought zab and Alexander said Alexander is not good and zab is much better.

        Holt to me isn't that good at all, he lost tonka USA who Judah sparked out clearly.

        Petrson did get a gift of a draw vs Ortiz, I don't know how a guy who won 5 rounds at most in a 10 round fight and also get dropped twice get a draw:


        Bradley's resume isn't better. I am not saying Khan's is great, but it is better.

        Again your trying to use the TRIANGLE EFFECT to convince yourself which fighter resume is better...that is even more proof that their Resumes are CLOSE

        All this He Beat Him and He Beat Him, only way to find out is for them to fight which will ultimately happen (Blah Blah Bradley don't want to fight he is ducking the fight yeah I get it, don't even bother replying with that same BS)

        I think fans get TOO EMOTIONAL and they get DESPERATE to try to prove something that is just not there

        Their Resumes are CLOSE and you trying to use this "TRIANGLE EFFECT" is actually only proving that it is much closer then some people WANT TO BELIEVE!
        Last edited by sicko; 07-24-2011, 09:05 PM.

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        • iPhoneKiller
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          #14
          Originally posted by sicko
          Again your trying to use the TRIANGLE EFFECT to convince yourself which fighter resume is better...that is even more proof that their Resumes are CLOSE

          All this He Beat Him and He Beat Him, only way to find out is for them to fight which will ultimately happen

          I think fans get TOO EMOTIONAL and they get DESPERATE to try to prove something that is just not their

          Their Resume is CLOSE and you trying to use this "TRIANGLE EFFECT" is actually only proving that lol

          I already stated that styles makes fights, however the triangle theory is valid as much as other aspects. Fighters are judged on their best wins etc...

          If mabuza beats Holt, and and Judah beat Mabuza, what is the logical name that best shows up?

          The winner.

          If you don't want to compare it like that, then ok fine.

          Witter is equal to paulie to me. Witter has lost to bums after too. Both have comparable wins. Both lost to better guys in Cotto and Judah.
          kotelnik and Alexander are on the same level. That is generous for Alexander.
          Maidana beats Holt in my eyes as who is better.
          Judah now is better than Peterson or the same level, based on a 'draw' he had with Ortiz and a lost to Bradley. He hasn't fought anyone on the level of Matthyse in regards to other opponents.

          That isn't a triangle theory.

          That is who I think is better.

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            #15
            I stopped reading at the triangle theories.

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              #16
              Originally posted by RINGG
              With one fight Khan has matched Bradley. But before that it wasn't so close.
              I have said pre Judah it was close and not far off as people said. I was one of a few who argued it.

              Previously people said Bradley was far ahead which I said no damn way.

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                #17
                Originally posted by sicko
                Again your trying to use the TRIANGLE EFFECT to convince yourself which fighter resume is better...that is even more proof that their Resumes are CLOSE

                All this He Beat Him and He Beat Him, only way to find out is for them to fight which will ultimately happen (Blah Blah Bradley don't want to fight he is ducking the fight yeah I get it, don't even bother replying with that same BS)

                I think fans get TOO EMOTIONAL and they get DESPERATE to try to prove something that is just not there

                Their Resumes are CLOSE and you trying to use this "TRIANGLE EFFECT" is actually only proving that it is much closer then some people WANT TO BELIEVE!

                Check out my assessment with updates on the Bradley and Khan fight of who will 'win'.

                Ignore the triangle theories in it lol.

                I talk about them pre Alexander and post maidana I think. Updated a tiny bit y day.

                Oh and I am not emotional at all. I am merely talking of a fighter who fought on Saturday and a planned fight, rather than a fight that may never happen at all in Mayweather and PAC like most.

                Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

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                • sicko
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ElderlyBeater
                  Check out my assessment with updates on the Bradley and Khan fight of who will 'win'.

                  Ignore the triangle theories in it lol.

                  I talk about them pre Alexander and post maidana I think. Updated a tiny bit y day.

                  Oh and I am not emotional at all. I am merely talking of a fighter who fought on Saturday and a planned fight, rather than a fight that may never happen at all in Mayweather and PAC like most.

                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=447239

                  I don't really disagree with anything your are posting, I don't have problem giving Khan maybe a slight edge as far as Resume goes, all I am saying is that I think the Comparisons of Resumes is closer then people want to admit

                  and i wasn't saying you was Emotional but I am saying some fans in general might be overrating Khan right now after his performance, but that is common, people always tend to go crazy over a guy after a Impressive Win for a few days

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                    #19
                    Doesn't matter. To me Khan is clearly better.

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                    • Rome-By-Ko
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                      #20
                      The key to ya answer is when did Bradley face the fighters on his resume and when did Khan face the fighters on his resume...

                      Holt,Champion coming off a KO victory with tons of momentum going into his fight with Bradley..

                      Witter,Champion and was ranked the num 1 fighter in the div at the time..Bradley went to the UK to win this fight and was very green when he did it..

                      Alexander,Unified Champion coming off a fight in which I thought he lost..But none the less he is a unified Champion and a highly talented fighter..

                      Peterson,A young hungry fighter who was undefeated and tough..I don't agree that Ortiz beat him..TBH I thought Peterson beat Ortiz,I also want to point out he was the only one to win a scorecard the other two judges scored it a draw with one judge scoring it for Peterson..Every time I see Peterson fight I get more respect for Bradley beating him the way he did..

                      Now lets look at Khan's note worthy wins...

                      Maidana,Not a Champion(but a hell of a fighter)but this was a good win no matter how ya slice it..

                      Kottie,Champion and imo a very impressive win for Khan..

                      Judah,Champion and a solid win for him..Judah was coming off a impressive KO of Mabuza and was confident..

                      Paulie M was coming off a win against a career LW and before that was beat into submission in his fights before that..TBH I was not that impressed by this win..

                      When you look at it this way imo I see it as Bradley being more accomplished at the weight..There for being slightly ahead of Khan in the resume department..But it's close..

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