why is Tim Bradley #1 JrWW on anybody's list?

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  • jrosales13
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    #41
    Originally posted by BoxerDood
    I understand that, but you have to give the #1 guy a chance to make his claim. Perhaps the Manny reference wasn't a good one.

    But the fact is, Bradley has been keeping up with Khan this whole time and he's #1. Whether you think Khan is better is just an opinion right now. Now if Bradley were to fight another Abregu next, hell yeah Khan would be #1. But if he were to fight someone like Maidana/Guerrero or Humberto Soto, he'd still have his claim to the #1 spot.
    Bradley has a chance to re-claim the #1 spot at 140. But, as of TODAY Khan deserves to be #1 at 140.

    Bradley recent activity especially at 140 -1 fight in 19 months at 140- is what hurts him in the rankings.

    Khan in that 19 months time frame has fought 5 times at 140. 1 of them against a bum, 1 against a top 15 fighter in the division, 1 against a top 10, and 2 against top 5.

    Khan run at 140 in the last 24 months is more impressive than Bradley inactivity in the last 24 months.

    So I really can't see how Bradley should be rank #1. However, at worse he's #2. And, has a hell of a chance/opportunity to re-claim his #1 spot if he wants it.

    I personally think Bradley overall is the better fighter and I think Bradley beats Khan H2H. But, Khan has earned the right to the #1 ranking. You can't ignore Bradley recent inactivity at 140 whether it's his fault or not.

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    • MUNG
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      #42
      Khans had an easy night finishing off one ameribum and he will have the same if the other one named bradley grows a pair, which i doubt it, maybe bradley can instruct judah in where to findhis balls, both seem be a bit confused in that area LOL

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      • mathed
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        #43
        Originally posted by junior gong
        Khan is currently the number 1 jnr welter, anybody says any different is a nuthugger, race warrior or a ****ing idiot or possibly a combination of the aforementioned. Thats it.
        There are plenty of people that have Floyd #1 at WW yet he fights once every2 years.

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        • BoxerDood
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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Bradley has a chance to re-claim the #1 spot at 140. But, as of TODAY Khan deserves to be #1 at 140.

          Bradley recent activity especially at 140 -1 fight in 19 months at 140- is what hurts him in the rankings.

          Khan in that 19 months time frame has fought 5 times at 140. 1 of them against a bum, 1 against a top 15 fighter in the division, 1 against a top 10, and 2 against top 5.

          Khan run at 140 in the last 24 months is more impressive than Bradley inactivity in the last 24 months.

          So I really can't see how Bradley should be rank #1. However, at worse he's #2. And, has a hell of a chance/opportunity to re-claim his #1 spot if he wants it.

          I personally think Bradley overall is the better fighter and I think Bradley beats Khan H2H. But, Khan has earned the right to the #1 ranking. You can't ignore Bradley recent inactivity at 140 whether it's his fault or not.
          Fair argument. But I don't see the point in moving it around so much. They should just wait until the two meet, or at least Bradley fights to make that judgement because their resumes are comparable, and Bradley's is arguably better. Its really not his fault he's been inactive for so long. Last year literally nobody aside from Alexander and Ortiz (waited too long though) wanted to fight him. And right now he has promotion issues.

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          • LEATHERF8CE
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            #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Bradley has a chance to re-claim the #1 spot at 140. But, as of TODAY Khan deserves to be #1 at 140.

            Bradley recent activity especially at 140 -1 fight in 19 months at 140- is what hurts him in the rankings.

            Khan in that 19 months time frame has fought 5 times at 140. 1 of them against a bum, 1 against a top 15 fighter in the division, 1 against a top 10, and 2 against top 5.

            Khan run at 140 in the last 24 months is more impressive than Bradley inactivity in the last 24 months.

            So I really can't see how Bradley should be rank #1. However, at worse he's #2. And, has a hell of a chance/opportunity to re-claim his #1 spot if he wants it.

            I personally think Bradley overall is the better fighter and I think Bradley beats Khan H2H. But, Khan has earned the right to the #1 ranking. You can't ignore Bradley recent inactivity at 140 whether it's his fault or not.
            Why are you gonna take away what Bradley did by going up in weight at 147 and beating a undefeated fighter and dominating every round...and you got to remember the fight against Maidana was made and signed and that was very unexpected of Maidana,,,

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              #46
              Originally posted by mathed
              There are plenty of people that have Floyd #1 at WW yet he fights once every2 years.
              Nobody really has Mayweather ranked at WW. Many people have Floyd as the lineal champ at 140 though.

              But, that's different because to be the champ you have to beat the champ. Lineal titles are only lost in the ring, retirement, or going to a different weight-class.

              Rankings don't work that way though. You don't have to lose to your ranking. Another person can jump ahead of you if he's putting in more work than you.

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                #47
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Nobody really has Mayweather ranked at WW. Many people have Floyd as the lineal champ at 140 though.

                But, that's different because to be the champ you have to beat the champ. Lineal titles are only lost in the ring, retirement, or going to a different weight-class.

                Rankings don't work that way though. You don't have to lose to your ranking. Another person can jump ahead of you if he's putting in more work than you.
                Wait what??

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LEATHERF8CE
                  Why are you gonna take away what Bradley did by going up in weight at 147 and beating a undefeated fighter and dominating every round...and you got to remember the fight against Maidana was made and signed and that was very unexpected of Maidana,,,
                  1. Because, what you did at 147 doesn't count for 140 ranking. No matter who he fought at 140. He could have beaten Pac and Floyd. That doesn't count for 140...We judge his ranking at 140 by what he does at 140 and we judge his ranking at 147 by what he does at 147.

                  2. Yes Madiana pretty much avoided Bradley...But, so what? You don't get extra points for that. Because, if that's the case then we give Khan extra points for being avoided by Bradley. Which is ridiculous to do.

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                  • mathed
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                    #49
                    To me, you could drop Bradley to 2nd or 3rd at 140.....whatever you want. I know that the best boxer at 140 is Bradley......regardless of where some list has him ranked.

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                    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                      #50
                      Khan is the number 1 JWW cant really be argued with a straight face.

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